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Putnam Park A group track times?

What do you guys run there?
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What do you guys run there?
Depends on the group. I was there saturday. Ran solid 1;25s on the KTM and I was holding my own everywhere exept the front straight. That track isn't motard friendly, unless I keep goin straight at T4 and cut over to dead bear.
Curious to see what I can do on the 999

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I clicked off an 18 on Saturday. Consistant 19's and 20's when there isn't traffic to deal with. I destroyed my front tire Saturday though.

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17's on a stock motor SV650
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I clicked off an 18 on Saturday. Consistant 19's and 20's when there isn't traffic to deal with. I destroyed my front tire Saturday though.
That track is brutal on tire, no shit. I thought blackhawk was bad. I only got 4 sessions out of the rear tire last weekend.

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17's on a stock motor SV650
Thats moving Steve.

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Thats moving Steve.

Yeah I had a bug up my ass that day. Thats what happens when your friends are on liter bikes and your on a SV 650.
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17's is moving bro especially on a stock SV. I think I did a 17 on a 91 ZX7R superbike in 93 or so and a kid died on the last corner during that weekend and I never went back after that. BUT if I went back now...I could probably go atleast 4 seconds faster than grasshopper.
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EDIT: Just noticed the title said Group A. Not me for sure. But I will leave my story for anyone who hasn't done a track day unless any of you fast guys object.


I have been there twice (the only two trackdays I have ever done) and the best I could do was a 1:30.8 on a race prep 05 R6. I got down from a 1:50 to a 1:36 on my own, but an instructor helped me get it down with some advice. He told me I was turning in too early and that advice helped a lot, especially at the bus stop.

He kept trying to tell me to pick turn in points and brake markers, but it was hard enough just to remember what gear I was in. When I told him that he gave me a concerned look and said "well you know that's pretty important." Thank the lord for slipper clutches or I would have had more then one heart attack that day hitting 1st gear when I thought I was shifting to 2nd.

I tried hard to get my knee down, but no luck. Dead Bear was my best chance, but I still couldn't do it. I almost got my knee down and was all excited and then my brother says with a straight face that he drags his elbow there if he sticks it out. - and then he laughs. Oh well.

My brother is quite a bit faster - and I mean a lot - but he will punch me if I post his best time. Well, maybe when his broken arm and collar bone heals!

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17's is moving bro especially on a stock SV. I think I did a 17 on a 91 ZX7R superbike in 93 or so and a kid died on the last corner during that weekend and I never went back after that. BUT if I went back now...I could probably go atleast 4 seconds faster than grasshopper.


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Best of 1:25 on a stock motor SV. Next time I'm there I know where I can for sure drop 2-3 seconds.

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17's is moving bro especially on a stock SV. I think I did a 17 on a 91 ZX7R superbike in 93 or so and a kid died on the last corner during that weekend and I never went back after that. BUT if I went back now...I could probably go atleast 4 seconds faster than grasshopper.

I can't wait to dice it up with you. I'll probably pick up the 4 seconds just because its you and I want to show you something. I can go a lot faster when I want to beat someone really bad or if I'm dicing it up with someone. Track days get kind of boring if there isn't any competition.

Come out to Gingerman on the 18th 19th or 20th. When's your next track day or race day Kwak? You fucker!

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Best of 1:25 on a stock motor SV. Next time I'm there I know where I can for sure drop 2-3 seconds.
Turn 1 is extremely fast on that track. I was carrying 5th through there once I figured it out. Grab a downshift into turn one and a quick blip and a downshift to 4th before turn 2. Then carry 4th through turns 3, 4, 5, 6 and grab 3rd in the bustop.

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I can't wait to dice it up with you. I'll probably pick up the 4 seconds just because its you and I want to show you something. I can go a lot faster when I want to beat someone really bad or if I'm dicing it up with someone. Track days get kind of boring if there isn't any competition.

Come out to Gingerman on the 18th 19th or 20th. When's your next track day or race day Kwak? You fucker!
My next race is ccs at BHF and then ASRA/CCS at Autobahn then USGPRU at Mid Ohio then I'll finish off the season with 250GP at Valencia as a wildcard

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Nick are you at Putnam this weekend on Sunday??? I just signed up and will be down there on my KTM.
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No can do, I mite go to Road America Sunday and/or Monday. Depends. I need to spend some time with the wifey, thats first and foremost!

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I only got 4 sessions out of the rear tire last weekend.
Huh? There are CRs running 17s in Advanced and 24s in Intermediate that get a whole day (10+ sessions) on a 208GP rear.

Sounds like you need some suspension tweaking. Was the tire torn up or smooth? What tires? What pressure?

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Huh? There are CRs running 17s in Advanced and 24s in Intermediate that get a whole day (10+ sessions) on a 208GP rear.

Sounds like you need some suspension tweaking. Was the tire torn up or smooth? What tires? What pressure?
He was on a borrowed KTM Supermoto bike that probably had a cashed tire on it anyway.

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He was on a borrowed KTM Supermoto bike that probably had a cashed tire on it anyway.
Nope! The KTM is mine and the slick was brand new. The suspension does need to be set up. I was running 30/30, the slicks were Dunlops. Not sure about the compound, but they felt soft as anything I ever seen. I was also deliberately sliding around a bit just because it was fun. The tire was torn up, especially on the right.


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Putnam likes the hardest compound you can find. Like Chris said, set up right, you can do very well with your tires.

Of course, I was playing around last year sliding the rear and totally fried a Dragon Slick to the metal core in 3 sessions, so your riding has a lot to do with it as well (I know you already know this).

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You are running way to much pressure!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 23psi int he front and 21 in the rear. I have done 2 trackdays at barber 1 at grattan 2 at Shawano and my tires look like new. I will find you in the pits on Sunday we will talk.
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You are running way to much pressure!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 23psi int he front and 21 in the rear. I have done 2 trackdays at barber 1 at grattan 2 at Shawano and my tires look like new. I will find you in the pits on Sunday we will talk.
Wow. 23/21! I'd never have suspected to go so low. This was the first time I've ever used slicks. See ya sunday.

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oi vey that looks like a 250 GP bike rear tire. When I ran dunflops... I ran 29/30. The grip was awesome but tire just wouldn't last for shit.
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by the way.. that tire is still good. I ran an entire trackday at autobahn south last year with nesba on a tire that looked about 1000000000 times worse than that and it was fine. It was so bad that there was an actual step in the rubber from the edge to about an inch in.
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The supermoto bikes are different with the tubes. I found this out from all the other motard guys at the track on with the pressures are to run. I ran slicks on my SV and also on my KTM. Two totally different tire pressures.
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Putnam is probably the roughest track for tire wear. Definitely double check your pressures with Dunlop, specific to your tire size, year of production, and compound.

And for whatever it's worth, it looks like you might want to play with the rear rebound a little.
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That tire isn't bad at all. I had a 208GP rear that looked worse than that from running 30psi. The next day I ran it at 32 psi and it immediately went to bowling ball smooth. Obviously these pressures don't have any bearing on your situation, but it's worth noting that a couple psi can make a world of difference and can save a tire from a premature death.

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