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I have some questions for any CCS racer.

I'm looking to get into racing, with the discounted race licenses possibly even this season.


1st question: for the rest of this year my work schedule is FUBAR. Say there are races on the 8, 9, 10. Would I be able to go and just race the 8th? Or is a class spaced out over the weekend? Where and how do I find this information?

2nd: I have an '04 SV650 with stock fork externals, slip on, filter, PCIII. What classes can I race?

3rd question: I don't have a race license but I'm very confident I'd do fine without one of their schools. I heard that you can have an instructor sign off on you. How do I go about doing this?

If they're racing at autobahn north the 8th, 9th, 10th. I'd LOVE for that to be my first race but I'd only be able to go on the 8th. I'm trying to get the day off..
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1.) you can race any day you want. it's too late to get into a points chase, so go with the class you want. Check http://www.ccsracing.us for a schedule. The 8th might not have any races.

2.) LWSS, LWSB, LWGP, GTLights, supertwins. Can also run up a class into middleweight classes.

3.) Talk to Garth about this. Advanced status in Nesba is usually enough to skip the class and just take the written. You will get nothing but flag and board information out of the class. They want your money NOW, and CCS don't get any money from the LCR class.

Again, the 8th might be a test and tune day or track day. Check the schedule on the website.

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schedule for the weekend

http://ccsracing.com/schedules/2006/...20SCHEDULE.pdf

Doesn't look like any races Friday

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I've got basically the same bike, and I run LWSS, LWSB, LWGP, GT Lights, Supertwins, and Thunderbike.

Go to www.ccsracing.com and check their schedule, and there are very rarely any races on Fridays. Usuallly Friday is just for practice, and the races are on Saturday and Sunday. You can sign up for only Saturday races or only Sunday races if that is what you prefer.

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hmmmmm checking to see if I can get the 9th off of work now..
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Hope to see you there, the more competition the better, even if it does take away some of my contingencies

If you need help with anything, procedures, scheduling or just anything in general, you can come pit with me and I can help ya out with whatever I can. Lotta CLSB'ers and NESBA people show up to the races too.

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sweet i'll definitely do that. there's a strong chance I should be able to get a trade that day. I might be blind but I don't see what track they're racing on, on the schedule page?
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One more thing Garth is G97 on here correct? I'm going to shoot him a PM as I won't be doing another nesba day until october
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http://ccsracing.com/venues/2006/autobahn.html

South course. last line in parenthesis under 'track information'

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Don't forget your bike will also get tech'ed. I don't know if you have a line on bodywork yet, but you will atleast need a belly pan. I heard they will allow a turkey roasting pan! Safety wiring a bunch of stuff is needed too.

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bike is safety wired, plastics are in. (hopefully they fit! lol)

I haven't ran the south course all year but if I get the day off I'm in
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2.) LWSS, LWSB, LWGP, GTLights, supertwins. Can also run up a class into middleweight classes.


What other bikes compete in these classes ?


748/749 ??


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748/749's are classified as middleweights I believe since they are water cooled.

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while we are on the topic what all needs to be safety wired? I believe I have everything done but want to make sure
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5.2 MOTORCYCLE TECHNICAL REQUIREMENTS
5.2.1 CCS and/or ASRA stickers must be displayed on each side of the
motorcycle. Stickers are available at Tech Inspection at no charge to competitors.
A. Failure to properly display the required stickers will render the machine ineligible
for CCS and/or ASRA purse money.
5.2.2 Neat and Clean. Motorcycles that are dirty or show potentially dangerous
bodywork damage will not be approved.
5.2.3 Tires must be in good condition and must be mounted on wheels at least 15 inches
in diameter.
A. Where permitted by the class rules, wheels made of carbon fiber designed for racing
and road use are allowed, providing all wheels are DOT or BS. approved and tested
to JWL standards for fatigue and impact strength. It is the responsibility of the
competitor to provide proof of certification to officials upon request.
5.2.4 All machines must have operational front and rear brakes.
A.Brake discs made of aluminum, or carbon fiber, are not permitted.
B. Brake disc carriers made of carbon fiber are not permitted.
5.2.5 All machines must have an operational handlebar mounted kill switch or button.
This switch must be easily identifiable by color or emblem for use by safety crew
members.
5.2.6 All machines must have a self-closing throttle.
5.2.7 All turn signals, luggage racks, and mirrors must be removed.
5.2.8 All lenses and instrument faces must be taped or removed.
5.2.9 Center and side stands must be removed.
5.2.10 Rear fender or seat must extend to the rear of a line drawn vertically at the rear
axle.
5.2.11 Fairings must be mounted in at least three locations. The front wheel must be
clearly visible from both sides except for the portion covered by the fender. The rider
must be visible from the side and above, while in a normal riding position, and
transparent material may not be used to allow for such visibility.
5.2.12 No streamlining may be attached to the rider.
5.2.13 All oil, fuel, and coolant carrying hoses or lines must be secured at all connecting
points by clips, clamps, safety wire, or other approved means.
5.2.14 Oil coolers must be securely mounted in a protected area. All connections must
be safety wired or otherwise secured by acceptable means.
5.2.15 On 4 stroke machines, crankcase ventilation must be routed into a heat resistant
catch can of at least 350cc capacity or the air box.
A. If ventilation is routed into the air box, any drains from the air box must be sealed.
B. If ventilation is routed to a catch can, the overflow tube from the catch can must
be routed into the intake area of the carburetors so that any overflow from the
catch can will be drawn into the engine.
C. Radiator overflow and battery vent tubes may be routed into a separate catch can
that need not be vented into the intake area.
D. Final approval of the catch can system rests with the Tech Inspector.
5.2.16 All engine, transmission, and final drive unit drain plugs and filler caps must be
visibly safety wired. Oil filter bolts must be secured with safety wire and spin-on oil
filters must be secured with a metal clamp and safety wire or other acceptable means.
Fuel and radiator caps are exempt.
On models where these items are not clearly
visible, enough bodywork must be removed before coming to tech inspection
so the Tech Inspector can see them.
A. Following is a list of motorcycles that are required to remove the lower bodywork
before coming to Tech Inspection:
All Suzuki GSXR models All Honda F-4 and F-4i’s
All water-cooled Ducati’s All Honda RC-51’s
All Aprilia Mille 1000’s
B. CCS and ASRA reserves the right to add to the list in section 5.2.16.A. Final
decision on which machines must remove the lower fairing rests with the Tech
Inspector.
5.2.17 Kick-starters, if retained, must be secured at two points.
5.2.18 Cooling system must not contain ethylene glycol.
5.2.19 All fuel must be gasoline as described in Section 1.
5.2.20 Valve stem caps with rubber o-rings installed are required on both wheels.
5.2.21 Supercharging is not allowed. Turbo charging is allowed only if the original
equipment system is used.
A. Nitros Oxide systems are strictly prohibited in all classes.
5.2.22 The following motorcycles must have case guards installed on both sides of the
engine: Suzuki GSXR (all models), Suzuki GSF (all models), Suzuki GSX (all models),
Yamaha FZR600 & YZF (all models except R-1 ). Case guards may be in the form of s
trengthened side covers. This list is subject to change and is at the discretion of the
Tech Inspector. Frame sliders are not acceptable as engine case guards.
A. Case guard or reinforced cover required on the left side only for Yamaha YZF-R1
and 2000 and newer model Suzuki GSXR’s with OEM style bodywork. (No openings
on the lower right side of fairing.)
5.2.23 All 4-stroke machines must be equipped with a fluid catch pan of sufficient size
and heat-resistant material to contain the contents of the crankcases in the event of
an engine or crankcase failure. Minimum capacity of the fluid catch pan is to be 3
quarts.
A. Enlargement and/or modification of an OEM fairing lower is permitted to attain
the necessary fluid retention
B. Machines not equipped with a lower OEM fairing may install a fairing in order to
comply with this rule as long as it meets the minimum requirements in Section
5.2.11 of the rules.
C. A maximum of two holes, 1" or smaller in diameter, may be drilled in the fluid
catch pan. These holes are to be plugged during dry conditions, and may be opened
only when the event is declared “wet” by the Referee/Race Director.
D. All fluid catch pans must be mounted in a safe and workman-like manner. (Zip-ties
and duct tape do not qualify as safe and workman-like mounting.)
E. Final approval of the catch pan system rests with the Tech Inspector.
5.2.24 Final approval of machines compliance will rest with the Tech Inspector.
You can download the whole rulebook on the ccs site for free.

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yea I saw that too, I was looking for the shortened english version though and with insight to SV specific safety wiring since a lot of people here have SV's. Like what are you guys doing for a catchcan? and according to that I dont need case covers?
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You don't need case covers. I replaced my OEM oil filler right side one (techincal, I know) with one from Spears Enterprises. Bellypan for me is just my bodywork. I don't think I need a catchcan since everything's bone stock.

I wire the fillercap on the oil directly to the frame. The hose clamp to the oil filter is wired to something directly above it. The oil drain plug is wired to the holes for the sidestand.

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What other bikes compete in these classes ?


748/749 ??


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The rulebook gives the SPECIFICS, but in most of them, it's 2 stroke 250s, Buells (both engine sizes), SVs, and air cooled Ducs under 800 cc. 125 2 strokes are out there in LWGP and GT lights as well.

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This is all assuming they let you forgo the class, take the test and race on Saturday. I'd talk to Eric Kelcher to make sure, then plan on having fun. Racing's addictive...
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Nick, you better get on ccsforum.com and ask about the license thing. Post up a thread in Rules and regulations.

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Nick, most friday practises are to licensed racers only and are $80. Looks like friday at autobahn has a street group so you might not have to have your license in time.

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ya but I dont want to pay $150 for their class to explain flags to me either. Hopefully something will work out, I'm waiting on a reply
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I'd email Garth rather than PM. He doesn't post too much, can't say how often he logs in. They have allowed Nesba A riders to skip the class before, but there have been A LOT of changes to CCS in the last year.

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Let us know how it works out for you. If they do let you get your license without taking the class thats bad for LCR as a business don't you guys think?

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yea looks like im going to have to do the class on friday $175 is damn steep though...
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yea looks like im going to have to do the class on friday $175 is damn steep though...
Yeah, I went the cheap route and did the Team Chicago school then contacted Eric. I just had to take the written test at my first CCS race.
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