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post #1 of 49 (permalink) Old 08-29-2006, 12:39 PM Thread Starter
 
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Buying trailer vs buying van?

Getting tired of renting a trailer from uhaul or borrowing one each time I go to the track. Plus then I have to borrow other peoples car since mine does not have a hitch.

I figure my two options are to either buy a trailer, in which case I could also pick up a beater car or put a hitch on mine (I'd be leaning towards the beater).

Or get something like an old cargo van and simply haul the bike inside. The cargo van sounds tempting but would probably cost more than some cheapo car that I only use for the track...on the plus side it's like my own little enclosed trailer. I figure that since I'd be looking into getting another car if I got a trailer, that simply doing it 2 in 1 might not be a bad move.

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The van is the best way. Thats my next major purchase. Preferably deisel. Through all the shit in the van, don't have to worry about towing a trailer and sleep in the van down by the river.

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For a single bike + gear, a cargo van is ideal. Pickup being second choice. Enclosed trailer being third, and open trailer fourth.

Downside to cargo van is the severe lack of creature comforts for those long hauls.

Given your current lack of a tow vehicle...a cargo van would be the best choice IMO.
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Downside to cargo van is the severe lack of creature comforts for those long hauls.
Curious, lack of comfort compared to what? I find vans to be about as comfortable as you can get.

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so you sleep in the same van that has an gas and oil infused motorcycle in it? Thats screams Migraine to me

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so you sleep in the same van that has an gas and oil infused motorcycle in it? Thats screams Migraine to me
No you take it out. More than likely you'll be at a track when you're sleeping in the van.

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Or you can take a tent or sleep in a hotel. I say get a van.

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I was talking about power adjustable seats, good stereo system, DVD player, etc. Cargo vans are typically bare bones in these areas. SOme dont even have AC.

Sleeping in a cargo van that stinks like race fuel ? Not for me, Id rather pitch a tent.
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Bought a trailer this year..... might have been better to go the Van route.


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If you are going to get a beater car to tow it anyways, just get a van or a pickup truck. Van would be better I guess. I don't really want to keep another vehicle and have to pay registration, insurance, etc, so a cheap open trailer is what I ended up doing.

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If you are going to get a beater car to tow it anyways, just get a van or a pickup truck. Van would be better I guess. I don't really want to keep another vehicle and have to pay registration, insurance, etc, so a cheap open trailer is what I ended up doing.
Thats one thing I don't understand about some people. They have a motorcycle that they have countless hours and time into building. They have a 40K dollar truck. Then they buy this fucking 150 dollar Walmark trailer. WTF???? PEOPLE??? You can afford the truck, the bike, and the money to go to the track but you can't buy a decent trailer for your bike???? Those flimsy cheep trailers actually flex when you tie a bike down on them. FUCK THAT! I like my bike too much to put it on a trailer like that.

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Hahahahhahahahahha good points... but it's more a matter of storing it more than the $$$. I got it when I was in college and it folded up for easy storage in a storage locker when I didn't have a garage. My homeowners association right now doesn't even allow trailers in my parkway, bastards just fined me $50 for my trailer being out there, so it's sititng in my backyard right now

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and there you have it.............

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The sprinter vans are pretty cool. High roof, deisel motor, good mpg.

Personally, I think it'd be more of a pain to have a 2nd vehicle to insure, park, etc. As you've seen, I went and bought a Kendon fold-up, which is working well. I get 22 mpg avg on the highway while towing, and have all the little comforts my car has in it on long trips. I can fit, just barely though, all my gear including an EZ-up, generator, tire warmers, cooler, toolbox and stands. I don't have the 2nd insurance bill, or need another parking spot. the trailer folds-up and sits along the wall in my garage.

the only issue is that it isn't enclosed.

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I love my van and the only reason I am getting rid of it is that I live downtown so space is limited. Keep all my stuff in the van and not having to unload and load everytime is a bonus.
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The sprinter vans are pretty cool. High roof, deisel motor, good mpg.

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Get a trailer ... and Kendon would be the best choice if you are going to tow it with a car. It is light, and stows away nicely ... and this one still might be available, and if it is, is a steal compared to new:

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I would say the van too.... buy it next year and save now while you only have 2-3 more track days... this way you can just hand over the cash and not worry about payments.. i am sure you can find a good deal on a van.

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We started out with an E250 window van. Brought the bike inside every night and never noticed any odor (if your junk leaks, it prolly shouldn't be on the track!) Had room for a pit bike as well as all the tools, spare wheels and ancillary crap.

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I've got one of the POS trailers Nick was bitchin about I went with 12 inch wheels. I only tow a race bike a few times a year, dirt bike maybe 5 or 6. I also don't have space for yet another vehicle, which would make 3 cages at the house. The biggest downside with a foldable open trailer is if you have to keep it overnight at a hotel. Even with locks, cables, etc on it, kind of scary.

I was eyeing a van a few years ago. 4 or 5 year old vans can be had pretty reasonably. I would skip over anything too old. It's just you, the van, and the bike out there..sometimes 8 or so hours from home. An extra $1k on a van 2 years newer looks pretty cheap when you are on the side of the road.

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Biggy,

Given your situation, and the number of track days and bikes you haul, I'd recommend a van as well. Or a small box truck. These things come off lease all the time and can be had for cheap!

Pick-up truck really isn't big enough for everything that you might want for one rider (just ask Ron). Sure, you can get your bike there, but all the other stuff is out in the open, a PITA to tie down and protect. Cargo Van/Box Truck is def the way to go. Plus, you end up with a back up vehicle.

Now, if you are carrying more than one bike, enclosed trailers are the only way to go. IMHO.

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If you go pickup truck geta 4 door like my tundra. bike, pitbike, ramps, gas cans etc go in the back.

Leathers, boots chairs etc go in the back seat area with the seats folded down. the truck is perfect, although like other have said if your gonna have your stuff outside at night a van is the way to go.

but for sleeping I am buying one of these tents.

now what everyone else says abotu a van is true, they are great, but pickup has other uses as well. Vans if you drive them regularly, and are not working out of them, make you look like a serial killer




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If you go pickup truck geta 4 door like my tundra. bike, pitbike, ramps, gas cans etc go in the back.

Leathers, boots chairs etc go in the back seat area with the seats folded down. the truck is perfect, although like other have said if your gonna have your stuff outside at night a van is the way to go.

but for sleeping I am buying one of these tents.

now what everyone else says abotu a van is true, they are great, but pickup has other uses as well. Vans if you drive them regularly, and are not working out of them, make you look like a serial killer

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I made a huge mistake in buying a pickup truck, will definetely be a van (not a daily driver either) in the future.
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I bought an higher mileage Regency conversion van. The previous owners used it for road trips with their family. I pulled the bed/couch out of the back and threw a removable wheel chock in it. It quiet inside, has nice seats, a television and if I sleep in it, it has blinds on the windows.
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yet 1 year ago you all thought me using my van was crazy for track days.

glad your finally seeing the light. ive been doing my van thing for the last 4 years


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My homeowners association right now doesn't even allow trailers in my parkway, bastards just fined me $50 for my trailer being out there, so it's sititng in my backyard right now
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