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post #1 of 36 (permalink) Old 09-08-2006, 09:32 AM Thread Starter
 
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Weight on pegs: inside vs outside

Alright, Well I am hearing conflicting information on whether I should be weighting the inside, or the outside of the peg while in a corner. So far, I have been putting my weight on the inside peg, but the other I day, I read that the weight on the inside peg will place an outward force on the rear tire, eventually leading it it slipping out.

However, weight on the outside peg places a downward pressure on the rear tire, improving grip.Thus, while entering a corner, weight the inside to help you turn, but then the outside through the turn to help you grip.

But of the info has been the opposite of what I have been doing and what I have learned.

I have seen some pro's that show off by pointing their outside leg out. Meaning that they are placing 0 weight on the outside peg. I realize they are pro's, but it does emphasize my thoughts a little bit on weighting the inside peg.

I am just trying to understand where the weight should be. Placing my weight on the inside peg has always felt good and stable through a corner, but I might not be at the outside of the rear tire.

So which should it be, and why? Thanks!

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oh man, you should try a search on this one I know we just recently had a very long thread on this topic.

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My opinion and what works for me -> weight the inside peg.

Enjoy the research, here ya go:

http://www.nesba.com/TrackTalk/bb/Fo...ML/001268.html
http://www.nesba.com/TrackTalk/bb/Fo...ML/001349.html

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oh man, you should try a search on this one I know we just recently had a very long thread on this topic.


According to the great Doug Chandler:

Weight the inside peg to break the back end lose in a corner to slide the rear tire...when you want to hook back up for drive out of the corner, simply shift weight to the outside peg to put traction back in the tire.

...........easy for you to say DOUG!!

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But according to Keith Code, nothing you do except put pressure on the bars
actually turns the bike. All the rest is bullshit. Hence, his no BS bike at his school where the steering is locked and he dares you to make it turn.

Ask Mick Doohan and he will tell you different. But Keith's point is your not at that level, so learn to push on the bars.

For riding on the road focus on pushing on the bars and you will learn more. When you are in a panic pushing on the pegs ain't gonna help much.

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Freddie Spencer says counter steer is to INITIATE the turn.

Weight the inside peg.

Old rehashed topic on many boards. Most of us have been through this argument many times for pages and pages.

Hayden weights the inside peg, so does Jason DiSalvo, and a whole host of others. Never mind... I am not typing all this crap again.

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Fuel for the fire:

For riding on the road focus on pushing on the bars and you will learn more. When you are in a panic pushing on the pegs ain't gonna help much.
Pissing on the fuel you put on the fire:

If you want to take the weight off your hands so you can feel the front end of the bike and be smoother on the controls, then weight the inside peg. Try it and see if you don't agree.

BTW, Keith Code is a pecker head. Nuff said.

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[QUOTE=Wink]

Hayden weights the inside peg, so[QUOTE]

Not when when he is riding flat track or backing it in. Almost all the weight is shifted to the outside peg, butt is on the outside crack of the seat.

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[QUOTE=Grasshopper][QUOTE=Wink]

Hayden weights the inside peg, so
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Not when when he is riding flat track or backing it in. Almost all the weight is shifted to the outside peg, butt is on the outside crack of the seat.
Correct, if you want the outside to slide to the outside, weight the outside peg. If you want to hold the line in the turn, weight the inside peg.

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My opinion and what works for me -> weight the inside peg.

Enjoy the research, here ya go:

http://www.nesba.com/TrackTalk/bb/Fo...ML/001268.html
http://www.nesba.com/TrackTalk/bb/Fo...ML/001349.html

Check back in after you get through reading and we can discuss more. Or come out to the track and we can do some real world testing of each method.

Will do! I am going to Autobahn south on the 23rd for my first time. Really looking forward to it.
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You can definitely move the back of the bike around by shoving on the pegs if the back of the bike is in the air or has very little weight on it.

You guys ever watch the MotoGP guys move the bike accross the track under bracking by leaning a touch and shoving down on the pegs. SWEET.

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Also, which oil is better...regular or synthetic?
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Asking "which peg do you weight?" is too general to get a solid answer from this audience. You need to specify "during turn in" or "at the apex" or "when I'm dragging my chin while feeding out the clutch on full left steering lock".

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Keith Code also says to weight the outside peg in twist of the wrist 2, I think the idea is to put pressure with your outside knee on the tank which also helps put weight on the outside peg. Just read it the other day. It seems to make sense.
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