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Holy lean angle batman!!!!

For those of you that doubt pilot powers. Check out these pictures. Ignore body position and look at that lean angle, I don't believe the rider has done any suspension adjustment either. This was done on regular ole Michelin Pilot Powers. The bike is a stock 2005 CBR600RR. Some how he wasn't scraping fairings.
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another with a different rider for reference. He never crashed all day either.
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There was a guy on 600RR.net that scraped his frame slider and crashed out. These bikes are known for draggin the top of the lower fairing at crazy angles too. just FYI
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There was a guy on 600RR.net that scraped his frame slider and crashed out. These bikes are known for draggin the top of the lower fairing at crazy angles too. just FYI
I don't believe it's possible to scrape a frame slider without crashing. I'd love to see pictures?? How did his leg fit underneath the bike unless the frame slider was 12" long
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Come on now no need for that. This was his 2nd trackday, he's faster than certain people that have done 10x as many days.

The point of this post was to show some insane lean angle on a regular old bike. All I need to do now is get him on a set of slicks and show him some proper body positioning.
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I had the same problem my first track day. It took an almost highside for Wink to get onto me about getting my upper body off the bike and the pegs off the ground. He'll back me up, my lean angle was just as bad.
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I wasnt riding with him so I didn't even realize it until I seen the pictures. The organization we were riding with definitely needs MORE control riders to give more people help.

I think it's absolutely sick though. Almost looks like a motoGP pic except he's on a regular bike
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And I'm on an 05 RR also. Weird!
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Kyle, you actually ran almost the same lean angle. your pegs were hitting the ground if you recall. Then you got some feedback, and you changed your form quite a bit, and you ran faster, cleaner and safer with less lean angle.

I did the same thing my first weekend. I ground half of my right Woodcraft peg off... Hix was just following me around waiting for me to crash.

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I did the same thing my first weekend. I ground half of my right Woodcraft peg off... Hix was just following me around waiting for me to crash.



What a great friend! He probably wanted to keep some of the pieces
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I had the same problem my first track day. It took an almost highside for Wink to get onto me about getting my upper body off the bike and the pegs off the ground. He'll back me up, my lean angle was just as bad.
You had just as much lean angle. The track was not as smooth as this one either.

I know someone that races the 600RR. He's stated that he's dragged fairings in corners. The 600RR is known to have some clearance issues at extreme lean angles.

Also to note, more than one racer of 600RR's had told me that their "lean angle sensor" has turned off their bike mid corner due to extreme lean!

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I know someone with lean angle

WTF are you guys for real.
Check the photos from an average CCS weekend. Most fast bikes are scraping the fairings and they are very fast. BTW what is the big deal?
Fast guys scrape stuff once and a while. Slow guys just talk about it.

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Lean angle that extreme on street tires is pretty insane IMO. Slicks are a completely different story, different profile.

I know a lot of people that are FAST that don't have extreme lean angle. Hell how about running a 1:16:60 at blackhawk on a supersport SV650? Didn't need that kinda lean angle to do it...
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I get the point of the post Crazy on street tires too!! (non-slicks that is)
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Lean angle that extreme on street tires is pretty insane IMO. Slicks are a completely different story, different profile.

I know a lot of people that are FAST that don't have extreme lean angle. Hell how about running a 1:16:60 at blackhawk on a supersport SV650? Didn't need that kinda lean angle to do it...
1:13's but I'm just a race dad so it must be discounted.
Oh wait, I know a guy or two that will do 11's at BHF and never touch anything. Oh, but then again I'm old and don't know sh$t.

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what are you arguing about Butch?
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Lean angle doesn't equal speed and dragging parts is not any better.
This whole outlook of racing a sportbike is dumb. my .02, but thanks for asking.

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i think all he was stating from the first post was that the tires stick even at extreme lean angles

there good tires

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Lean angle doesn't equal speed and dragging parts is not any better.
This whole outlook of racing a sportbike is dumb. my .02, but thanks for asking.
the reason i asked, is cause no one was saying anything about lean angle making anyone faster. Simply that's it's crazy to be able to have that much grip on DOT tires.
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the reason i asked, is cause no one was saying anything about lean angle making anyone faster. Simply that's it's crazy to be able to have that much grip on DOT tires.
OK I'm drunk.

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OK I'm drunk.
That was gonna be my second question
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1:13's but I'm just a race dad so it must be discounted.
Oh wait, I know a guy or two that will do 11's at BHF and never touch anything. Oh, but then again I'm old and don't know sh$t.

Show me proof of someone that did 1:11's at blackhawk on a SUZUKI SV650 and I'll give you $100!!

Funny Ed Keys fastest lap there this last weekend was a 1:16:40 and he won the expert class. I know because my buddy got 2nd and ran a 1:16:60. But what do I know I'm just a racers friend Oh ya there's a 15hp difference in Ed Keys bike and my buddy Tim L's.

Unless you have secret footage of valentino rossi running BHF on a SV650 I'd say you are out of your mind (or really drunk). And why'd you take all the beginner stuff out of your profile?

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i think all he was stating from the first post was that the tires stick even at extreme lean angles

there good tires

Thank you. I am well aware of the not so great body position etc. etc. Seems there are a lot of crab asses around here lately.

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Other than this being a retarded argument, dragging a frame slider on the 600RR doesnt look like its an impossible task:



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SICKNESS! I didn't realize they were mounted that low. WOW! That guy isn't running street rubber too is he?
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big lean angle + street tires + mediocre speed= not smart but relatively safe
big lean angle + street tires + fast speed= mostly likely end in a crash

street tires are better than we all think. We've all just been acustomed to believe that without race tires, you have to creep around. Any current high performance street tire is better than the sportmax race dots I raced on in the early 90's.
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