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How to become a Track Junkie...

So, I've been going way too fast on the street, and I've begun to become afraid that I will hurt myself... I made a promise about 12,000 miles ago when I first got my bike that when I got to 10,000 I would take my bike to the track. Well, it's overdue, and now I've become way too comfortable at 90 mph on the highway...

How do I get myself to the track the cheapest way possible!? I want to ride as hard and fast as I want, and I know that the street is NOT the place for that mentality AT ALL! But, I'm a poor schoolboy, only working part-time, so every corner that I can cut to get myself to the track, I will take!

Any suggestions?

What will I need, bare MINIMUM to get to the track in terms of gear, equipment, and bike setup? What about access to a truck and trailer (are there usually enough people going that I would probably be able to bum a ride from someone?) What about track fees?

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Shop around and get good gear cheap! Don't skimp on gear. You need a helmet, leather jacket, leather pants (preferrably a 1 or 2 piece suit) gloves, and boots. Then a bike, but it seems that you already have that.

My last quick check when I leave for a trackday is, helmet, gloves, pants, jacket, boots, bike, ignition key. Everything else is extra. If I show up at the track with those items, I can ride.

Retailers that have been good to me:
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Be careful when purchasing on line. Read the fine print. Some places don't allow exchanges. Some charge restocking fees, and sometimes they are 25%regardless of the reason.

Check the nesba classifieds, and CLSB classifieds. There may be some used gear to help you get by on a budget.

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As far as minimum gear; the links above cover the REQUIRED gear, but to me it's however much you would want on your body if you end up sliding across the track on your ass.

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I did actually have my first low side a few weeks ago. Buy good gear! My jacket is double stiched and glued at the seams. I have the Alpinestars track pants and love them! But the best part is the CE approved armour in my jacket. I'm sure I'd have a broken forearm or two. I hit pretty hard, and lightly bruised my forearms.

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There is no cheap way to get onto the track....its not a cheap hobby.

I dont think this is a sport Id reccomend cutting corners on either.

Im not trying to talk you out of it, Do some homework on whats involved.

Your ass is on the line and your bike, neither of which is a cheap loss.

Do the intro with NESBA, its free and you need minimal gear and minimal prep to your bike.
After that make your decision .
Good luck!

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I've done this stuff for a couple years with my son and it ain't cheap.
If you want to be safe, leave the attitude at home and do an intro day with Nesba.

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Like the others have said, intro day at nesba. Bring your checkbook, as you will want to finish the day. Its an absolute blast. One major problem you will experience though is the street will be ruined for you as its absolutely boring after that.




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I didnt detect any attitude
He wasn't necessarily commenting about Apollo's attitude. I think Butch meant he should come to the track with an open mind and a desire to learn.

Occassionally, we get a rider that comes out thinking they need to prove themselves. They'll ignore the rules and/or ride way over their head. They get their ass chewed for doing stupid shit and then think NESBA is a bunch of hard-asses for making safety a priority.

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But, I'm a poor schoolboy, only working part-time, so every corner that I can cut to get myself to the track, I will take!
Apollo, I'm in the same boat...I have been yearning to get to the track but cant make ends meet as a student. i basically cant afford the gear. dropping 1k for gear isnt exactly easy. i'm going to try to get putnam with my bike this weekend for the intro session on sunday, but if i cant afford the transport for my bike, i'm going to at least drive myself out there to get a taste for the track, even if it is from the "sidelines". i must admit that i've never been to the track, but i can tell you i'm already addicted. i eat, sleep, dream, and obsess about trackdays. good news is that i graduate in feb. and i expect to start making real cash after that. when that happens...i will spare no expense as long as i get my "fix".

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I've done this stuff for a couple years with my son and it ain't cheap.
If you want to be safe, leave the attitude at home and do an intro day with Nesba.

What????? Hold the [email protected]@##$$% Everyone and his monkey has been spreading the gospel of cheap track days How dare you try shatter the myth of cheap track days



...Props to Butch for telling it like it is

While track days are fun....they are hardly cheap and the worse thing...they are addictive....I think main lining heroin is cheaper and less addictive. But, with that all said....everyone should do at least a couple, just remember, what you learn there, rarely gets applied to the street, that's my opinion and I'm sticking to it.

And remember, no matter what you read, here or other forums...you don't need tire warmers, pop up tent, race tires, race plastics, generators, enclosed trailers or $1000 paint jobs to do a track day.


Have fun, be safe....remember it's not a race...it's a track day

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The track is like crack, and after your first taste you'll always want more. Sure it isn't cheap, and not everyone here has the latest and greatest (except Wink ). Believe it or not we all have "Other" responsibilities that come first as well.

If you look around on the "Wanted and for sale section" here on the board, you will most likely find gear that is suitable for a season for much less than retail. If you can't find anything, ask around someone will hook you up for a day or two.

Try the intro day and like Tony said "Bring your checkbook, as you will want to finish the day." You will never want to leave. NESBA has a great program with some outstanding people, and the greatest makeup of members - it's like a huge family.

Come play for a day, but be prepared to have your ego shattered. You will find out just how slow you really are, unless you are one of the very few exceptions.

I would start asking for gear for X-mas birthdays ect, and start saving money now. You will see that once the gear and such is paid for, the cost will mainly be what tracks and how many days (aside from the normal expenses: Transportation, Tires, Fuel, Brake Pads ect.)

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One major problem you will experience though is the street will be ruined for you as its absolutely boring after that.
Sorry Tony, calling on that.....street riding....is not boring....it's terrifying especially in Chicagolalalaland Jay post link up for vid of us on Beartooth Pass, Lolo Pass, Rattlesnake Road...etc.....Street riding IS motorcycling, period. Track days are a very small part of motorcycling. Do one over the other exclusively, is curtailing the experience of what is motorcycling. Street riding has it's own mindset, accept that and you'll have a blast and have memories like this.....
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I think Tony means street riding around here. Most of us don't get outside of the area as often as we'd like.

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Hey Apollo,

The key word to doing track days on a budget is "USED". Go shopping and find out what size leather suit, gloves, boots, etc... you need in several brands (A*, Joe Rocket, Technic, etc.). Look through the forums on line and pick up used gear over the winter (CCS forum, WERA forum, NESBA forum, CLSB forum, Ebay, etc.)

Pick up a USED one piece race suit and don't buy it in perfect shape, the more cosmetic blemishes the better cause it will be cheaper (winthin reason, here). Then send them to Alexa at Spyderworks and have them cleaned and repaired. End result will be a great pair of leathers at an inexpensive price.

Tires are your other big expense. Run takeoffs. You need to be able to look at a set of tires and know if they are roasted or if they have some life left. Ask me, or someone else who lives at the track, the key things to look for in a set of takeoffs that will tell you if they are good or not.

The other big money saver is patience and humility. Both are free and both will save you from VERY expensive bike repairs and possible hospital bills.

Once you get past the initial cost (read Christmas present) of safety gear, you should be able to do a track day every month or so if you are frugile and avoid all the extras.

We all try to share rides to the track which helps cut down on travel costs and makes the trips more fun for everyone. We can also talk abou that if you would like.

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I think Tony means street riding around here. Most of us don't get outside of the area as often as we'd like.
Chris..I realize that But, if you guys weren't so hooked on track days....you could actually do a few of the shorter trips And discover what fun can be had on the back roads of America.

Maybe I'm reading it all wrong...but lately I feel if your not a track junkie....your not into motorcycles I get this wild eyed looks from track junkies, that read to me "What a maroon, he rides the streets!"

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Any suggestions?

What will I need, bare MINIMUM to get to the track in terms of gear, equipment, and bike setup? What about access to a truck and trailer (are there usually enough people going that I would probably be able to bum a ride from someone?) What about track fees?
What will I need, bare MINIMUM to get to the track in terms of gear,-Helmet,boots,leathers (1 or 2 piece with 360 degree zipper attachement) gauntlet style gloves.(Back protector suggested)

equipment, - spare gas can, foot pump for air, tape on lenses and disconnect wiring harness at headlight and taillight.

bike setup-stock is fine-make sure your tires have some life on them (see NESBA handbook at www.nesba.com for tech inpection parameters.

What about access to a truck and trailer (are there usually enough people going that I would probably be able to bum a ride from someone?-probably if youre diligent enough

What about track fees? Different for each track-Generally around $160.00 per day + once a year Nesba membership fee $50-$75 depending upon if they have a membership drive in the spring or not.

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Maybe I'm reading it all wrong...but lately I feel if your not a track junkie....your not into motorcycles I get this wild eyed looks from track junkies, that read to me "What a maroon, he rides the streets!"
Sounds like you are in denial Rick. It's OK to come on out to the track. We track junkies will accept you and you'll fit right in. See ya at the track big guy.

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"What a maroon, he rides the streets!"

Psssssst.....it has nothing to do with you riding the streets.

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And remember, no matter what you read, here or other forums...you don't need tire warmers, pop up tent, race tires, race plastics, generators, enclosed trailers or $1000 paint jobs to do a track day.
But, but...all the cool guys have that shit!

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How do I get myself to the track the cheapest way possible!?
Oh, you said the absolute CHEAPEST way possible....


Easy! Find a friend that has all the track day stuff and just mooch off them. Use their safety gear, ride their bikes, ride to the track with them, eat their food, etc...

Right Wink?

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Oh, you said the absolute CHEAPEST way possible....


Easy! Find a friend that has all the track day stuff and just mooch off them. Use their safety gear, ride their bikes, ride to the track with them, eat their food, etc...

Right Wink?
I hear there are even some dorks that want to fit in so bad, they'll put gas in your bike, cook for you and even buy you some of your favorite beer! If you can find one of them, your set.

Though I have to say this isn't any more expensive than any other hobby I've had. It's just a matter of how much you want to put into it. If you just want to ride on the track and have fun, it's not bad. If you want to race or have a competitive spirit, then your screwed.

This being my first season, I figured I'd do 1-2 track days or events a month when I had money. Thats getting out on the track every other week! Thats plenty........ This weekend will be track days 18 & 19 I think. I've already upgraded bikes and had to do conversions to my garage to organize all my gear. To say it's addictive is an understatement.

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Years Riding: 15 years
How you found us: NESBA
           
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Originally Posted by ronhix
Hey Apollo,

The key word to doing track days on a budget is "USED".
+1 on that...with 4 kids...all my shit is used

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