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Ed Key's SV HP #'s

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SV700, hell yeah. Strange power graph, crazy dip between 4 and 5K. Nice top numbers and gobs of torque for that motor.

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it's probably where the cam profile starts to get nutty.
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The superbike on the left, with GSXR forks and wheel

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Ive watched him at blackhawk and he pulls every other sv out there
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damn, nice numbers for the SV.
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practical engineering at work

btw that dip is 5252 rpm where torque and horsepower are equal, from there torque levels off and hp rises
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btw that dip is 5252 rpm where torque and horsepower are equal, from there torque levels off and hp rises
Not so practial engineering, getting this much power out of a SV is a challenge, the challenge is in keeping it together the whole race.

Yeah everyone can read the dyno graph, so what's the significance of your observation. Is there a direct correlation between torque and horsepower meeting at a certain rpm?

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Torque and HP will always meet at 5252 rpm's on a dyno.
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Not so practial engineering, getting this much power out of a SV is a challenge, the challenge is in keeping it together the whole race.

Yeah everyone can read the dyno graph, so what's the significance of your observation. Is there a direct correlation between torque and horsepower meeting at a certain rpm?
I don't claim to know anything.
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Torque is a real measurment.

HP is a thoretical expression of work done over time.

The forumula that you use to project horsepower uses torque ( measued )
and RPM ( measured ) and the lines will always cross at 5252 RPM.


HP = Torque * RPM / 5252



The DIP in any torque curve is caused by tuning of the engines airflow.

This includes airbox, carbs, intake, cams, valves, pistons, displacement,
compression, headers, exahsust..... the whole deal.

Making changes to airflow through a motor ( with fuel of course ) change
the power delivery curve ( torque curve ). Producing a HILL at one level
in the curve will produce a DIP somewhere else in the curve.

The new Yamaha R1 has variable length intake runners to address this.


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He gets his bikes dynoed at Valley Racing?
I thought that was weird too. last I checked all his motor work was done by Motorcycle Performance out in Madison (where he lives).

Ed usually gets at least 1 DNF per season from his superbike motor not lasting the race weekend. He is trying to compete against those Buell 12Rs with an SV. With comparable riders (or close to it), staying ahead of those Buells requires serious motor work on an SV.

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It makes me sick know I am racing against that! I guess that is the reason he is a couple of seconds faster than me Ed is pretty quick and he is a great guy. He has been racing longer that I have been alive. I would love to see a SV cup race where all the racers raced equal HP bike. That would be a blast to race in. But mad props the the king for all the work he has done to his SV's
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A guy in my jiu-jitsu class raced against him back in the days when he was racing 350 4 strokes in the 80's. I said.."yeah, he's still there, still ungodly fast."

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did you all know that Ed used to race in AMA 250GP?
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I would love to see a SV cup race where all the racers raced equal HP bike. That would be a blast to race in.
HP and weight parameters enforced for the suzuki cup classes. (seperate from the rest of the GNF races)


SUZUKI SV650 CUP FINAL:
1. Dane Westby, 8 laps, $1500
2. Chris Parrish, -0.201 second, $1250
3. Jeff Walker, -2.187 seconds, $1000
4. Zac Chapman, -2.552 seconds, $750
5. Cale Swiger, -3.928 seconds, $600
6. Dustin Dominguez, -4.025 seconds, $500
7. Arnold Hastings, -9.263 seconds, $450
8. Kris Wall, -9.383 seconds, $425
9. Ricky Ford, -18.067 seconds, $400
10. Philip Fortune, -18.167 seconds, $375
11. Max Norton, -18.883 seconds, $350
12. Russell Masecar, -21.047 seconds, $325
13. Steve Green, -25.303 seconds, $300
14. Steve Brunton, -29.909 seconds, $275
15. Josh Smith-Moore, -30.320 seconds, $250
16. Wayne Handley, -31.012 seconds, $250
17. Thomas Williams, -56.012 seconds, $250
18. Russel Stoddard, -8 laps, DNF, crash, $250
19. Craig Montgomery, DNS

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HP and weight parameters enforced for the suzuki cup classes. (seperate from the rest of the GNF races)


SUZUKI SV650 CUP FINAL:
1. Dane Westby, 8 laps, $1500
2. Chris Parrish, -0.201 second, $1250
3. Jeff Walker, -2.187 seconds, $1000
4. Zac Chapman, -2.552 seconds, $750
5. Cale Swiger, -3.928 seconds, $600
6. Dustin Dominguez, -4.025 seconds, $500
7. Arnold Hastings, -9.263 seconds, $450
8. Kris Wall, -9.383 seconds, $425
9. Ricky Ford, -18.067 seconds, $400
10. Philip Fortune, -18.167 seconds, $375
11. Max Norton, -18.883 seconds, $350
12. Russell Masecar, -21.047 seconds, $325
13. Steve Green, -25.303 seconds, $300
14. Steve Brunton, -29.909 seconds, $275
15. Josh Smith-Moore, -30.320 seconds, $250
16. Wayne Handley, -31.012 seconds, $250
17. Thomas Williams, -56.012 seconds, $250
18. Russel Stoddard, -8 laps, DNF, crash, $250
19. Craig Montgomery, DNS
I take it those are from the Suzuki Road Atlanta race. There is a SV cup series in Canada as well. Has control tires as well (think it's Michelin).

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