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Lessons Learned-20 Pro Motorcycle Roadracing Riding Tips

What an excellent article. This is seriously good stuff and worth the couple minutes to read.

http://www.motorcyclistonline.com/ho...adracing_tips/

PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE Read this article. I can't stress it more. If you race, do track days or just simply love high performance motorcycle riding you will love it. I read it twice. I would mention a favorite # of the 20 but love every single one.

Good Stuff Mr Catterson.

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I guess not I need to spead the love around before giving it to Grasshopper.

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That was a good read, but 2 and 9 seemed to contradict each other
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Good find! Unfortunately, it seems like I have to spread some reps around first before giving one to Grasshopper as well

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I want some of that greek lovin




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I like #15. I've found myself worrying about the slowest corners at Autobahn North for no reason.

1, 2, & 5 also connect with me.

A very thought provoking list, indeed.

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That was a good read, but 2 and 9 seemed to contradict each other
IMO, they refer to different phases of a track rider/racers progression. #2 is for the experienced rider trying to make a fast lap. #9 is for the newer ride who can benefit more from learning the proper brake, turn in, and exit points, than tucking for no other reason than imitating the fast guys.

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I like #15. I've found myself worrying about the slowest corners at Autobahn North for no reason.
You aint kiddin, I spend all of my time on that track working on 2 and 6 and auto piloting through the rest. I really should reverse that.




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That was a good read, but 2 and 9 seemed to contradict each other
That is why the beginning of the article explains the following


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What’s the proper way to ride a motorcycle? Ask a dozen riders and you’ll get a dozen answers. Not even the experts can agree. Take something as simple as steering: Forget that whole push-right-to-go-left deal. Keith Code gave us the Power Pivot, Reg Pridmore preaches body steering and Freddie Spencer stresses trail-braking to change direction. Totally contradictory techniques, yet they all work. Who are we to disagree?

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well I thought the point was him compiling the list of the top things he'd heard from all the top riders. He took the dozen different answers he got and made a list that works. Not a big deal anyway, just something that popped into my head. I'll be sure to take all of it into consideration before my first lap around a track
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As far as the contradiction goes, I'm beginning to understand that with motorcycles just as with any other trade there're no rights and wrongs. There're simply different ways of doing things and they apply to different situations. Contradiction disappears when you add a context.

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well I thought the point was him compiling the list of the top things he'd heard from all the top riders. He took the dozen different answers he got and made a list that works. Not a big deal anyway, just something that popped into my head. I'll be sure to take all of it into consideration before my first lap around a track
Please don't try and take all of that into consideration on your first lap around a track. That is way too much to think about and process for a new track rider. Just concentrate on riding and doing what you know how to do. The rest will come later, with time, alot of money, stacks of tires, tons of seat time and a hell of alot of patience.

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Please don't try and take all of that into consideration on your first lap around a track. That is way too much to think about and process for a new track rider. Just concentrate on riding and doing what you know how to do. The rest will come later, with time, alot of money, stacks of tires, tons of seat time and a hell of alot of patience.
I hadn't planned on trying to recite it word for word on each lap, just big broad pieces. Trust your tires, look where you're going, use the rear brake; big things like that. I'm not even gonna know enough to know how to break the tire loose to slide through a turn. I've always been a person who will read a lot on something before they do it, get as much background and details from people who've done it before so I have a jumping off point

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I hadn't planned on trying to recite it word for word on each lap, just big broad pieces. Trust your tires, look where you're going, use the rear brake; big things like that. I'm not even gonna know enough to know how to break the tire loose to slide through a turn.
you will if you recite "use the rear brake" except you probably wont slide through the turn, exactly
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CHest on the tank in the straights.


Proud posture on the brakes and turn in.

Chest low and flat through the apex back to centered and tucked.


THey are both correct.


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you will if you recite "use the rear brake" except you probably wont slide through the turn, exactly
I was thinking the same thing.

Do not even go near that rear brake until you have some serious track miles under your belt. the only time you use it is in the pit or when you are following Ron's lead and taking an agricultural tour of the infield.




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I was thinking the same thing.

Do not even go near that rear brake until you have some serious track miles under your belt. the only time you use it is in the pit or when you are following Ron's lead and taking an agricultural tour of the infield.
I like to call it "Soil Sampling".

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