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First Track Weekend

Went down Putnam a few from here, it was my first track day, so a lot can be cross-referenced with Hunny’s post…

Never been to a track, let alone a track day. So this was a first time experience overall. I had no idea what to expect and showed up totally over-prepared. Most everything got put to use, but now I know what to expect.

Saturday morning, show up there and am completely confused at how everything works. Get registered and teched, and headed back to the pit to get ready. Someone mentioned I should pull the fuse to my headlight so the tape doesn’t melt on there, oops. My nifty little machine won’t run w/o headlight fuse and caused me to miss the first lap first session. All good cause I started out in Novice and was pretty bored there. I must say I learned a lot from it and am happy I started out there. Learned the race lines and where to start turning, braking etc. I had an awesome coach/control rider in group 3 and we were tailing group 1 during the afternoon, we had a solid group and most of us were on the same level. At the end of the day, coach said we were all ready for intermediate, thank god, cause I signed up for it on Sunday being told I’d be fine there and Novice was already full.

So day one went well. There was one target fixation going into 8, big bear, where I swore I was going off the track, but realized what I was doing, let off the brakes, and turned my head where I wanted to go. Ended up just being a wide turn there. Phew!

Sunday, day two. Intermediate and was a little bit nervous about the passing part. The weather was much more cooperative, everything was almost completely dried out. Session one we had two red flags, ugh. Session two went better and I think that session I followed Biggy the whole way through. He was running 1:32 (??) 1:34 in the morning, and I think if I’m not mistaken, he got his times down to 1:26 (??) so I dunno what my times were… but it gives you an idea that we were doing well. Got my race lines down, was super comfortable with the speed for most of the day. Then I got passed by some uber fast guy and he was being followed by a control rider, my coach from day one, so I try to keep up. Only 3 turns later, the first left hander, turn 4, I rolled on the throttle too strong during the exit, drifted the rear, and almost highsided. Seriously, lost control and the bike was trying to throw me off. Thought I was going to fall, I was thinking to myself that I was going to fall, but then the bike said "don't do it, you can take me over again" grabbed on as tight as I could and squeezed with my legs and was able to pull it together. I think I tried to stay on the throttle through the drift, though can’t recall exactly what I did, though I know it scared the crap outta me. I was shaken up for the next session and focused on my body position and lines keeping my speed comfortable.

A little sore today, and definitely lost some water weight.

At one point during big bear, number 8, I was thinking to myself, “lean muthafucka, lean!” And I was screaming it to myself by the time I was coming out of it!
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Awesome. That's crazy that you are already running I pace in your first track day. And I'd bet you stayed on the throttle a little bit in that drift, because if you chopped it off you would have had a different outcome

BTW, T8 is "Dead Bear" and I've dragged my peg in that turn too after coming in a little hot.

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sounds like good times! cant wait to do the track myself but $ is stopping that one. Good to hear u didnt crash because i woulda had to kick your ass! We dont need anymore people going down this year!

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ahhh dead bear! I think I got the numbering right for most of the track... only rode it for almost 4 hours the last couple of days!

I dragged toe and knee at the same time in that corner... scared me a bit! I figured out how to get the knee down before toe, but sometimes I'm not expecting the toe to go... gotta keep that thing tight against the bike, no?

And this was an STT event, so novice has a lot of instruction which I did the frist day, then if your're ready, which I was on Sunday, you go to 'I' which I hear is comparable almost to NESBA 'B' but that is all hear say from me!
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Bobby you did awesome! You were flying pretty good and keeping up with Biggy through most of the day!

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Awesome! Very glad your 1st track day was crashless, thus very successful! I can't wait to get out on the track!!!

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ahhh dead bear! I think I got the numbering right for most of the track... only rode it for almost 4 hours the last couple of days!

I dragged toe and knee at the same time in that corner... scared me a bit! I figured out how to get the knee down before toe, but sometimes I'm not expecting the toe to go... gotta keep that thing tight against the bike, no?

And this was an STT event, so novice has a lot of instruction which I did the frist day, then if your're ready, which I was on Sunday, you go to 'I' which I hear is comparable almost to NESBA 'B' but that is all hear say from me!

Nesba B and STT b are the same exp.

Same with Nesba ! and STT I nothing different
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Nesba B and STT b are the same exp.

Same with Nesba ! and STT I nothing different
At a signup , you can bump yourself up into STT I group. NESBA I is earned (I believe)

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At a signup , you can bump yourself up into STT I group. NESBA I is earned (I believe)
You can sign up for A if you wanted to, but that doesn't mean that you'll stay there if you don't belong there. Same thing for I. I've seen people sign up for A and end up in a bottom N group.

And despite the rumors, depending on the day, the 1 and 2 N groups are faster than some I riders, but generally, because everyone is grouped based on speed, it looks like everyone is going really slow.

I thought we weren't really 'sposed to be talking about this?

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I'm glad I was able to gain my confidence in the Novice learning sessions, and don't think NESBA offers anything of that sort. That's why I went with STT for my first time.

I'll probably run with both now since my schedule is tough to get in track time.
No need for a NESBA vs STT pissing contest here because I think they are both good orgs...

but just so we are clear on this issue... NESBA does offer instruction in all groups, B and I group especially and even A if you ask for it or obviously need it.

And since I am one of the NESBA instructors doing the instructing, I'll assure you that it is EXCELLENT instruction.

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Also, I'm curious who your instructors were? Any recollection of their names/bike/leathers?
First session I went out with an older guy with a grey beard, named Martin. Sounded like a European accent, Hunny knows him better than I. The rest of the day was out with a guy named Mark. He said he was a 3 time National Champion in some type of racing organization and was an amazing instructor. He is the one in one of my track form pics with the white taped headlights, black 1000RR with a line-xed gas tank.

Then yesterday I got with a guy named troy, he posted up in Hunny's thread as Tznutz. I asked for some critiquing from him and he was very helpful. Mark was out in I yesterday and had nothing to critique... he was helping the faster guys out and they were trying to nail a guy for dangerous passing.

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No need for a NESBA vs STT pissing contest here because I think they are both good orgs... but just so we are clear on this issue... NESBA does offer instruction in all groups, B and I group especially and even A if you ask for it or obviously need it.
Yeah, I wasn't too clear on my statement, I apologize!

I just know we had several classroom discussions with STT Novice, and then split off into our groups where we talked more one on one with our group leaders. This was required and very helpful. I have no idea what NESBA is like, and am only working with hear/say info on that end.
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And since I am one of the NESBA instructors doing the instructing, I'll assure you that it is EXCELLENT instruction.

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No need for a NESBA vs STT pissing contest here because I think they are both good orgs...

but just so we are clear on this issue... NESBA does offer instruction in all groups, B and I group especially and even A if you ask for it or obviously need it.

And since I am one of the NESBA instructors doing the instructing, I'll assure you that it is EXCELLENT instruction.
Ron does offer excellent instruction. He taught me to drink Corona with great skill.

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I almost forgot the point of this thread! Congrats man! Track riding is a blast! Putnam is a great track. Just respect turn 4 and dead bear when it's cold out.

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they were trying to nail a guy for dangerous passing.


did they ever find out who it was? i never heard any more after that

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they were trying to nail a guy for dangerous passing.


did they ever find out who it was? i never heard any more after that
I dunno, but I saw them get a guy in A... I'm guessing they got the guy in I because I didn't hear the CR's complaining about him anymore, and they were able to critique.
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Nesba B and STT b are the same exp.

Same with Nesba ! and STT I nothing different


wrong, wrong, and more wrong.



NESBA B and STT B are way different in the way they are structured. STT has way more structure than NESBA. As for pace, NESBA B is much faster on Avg than STT B. I am a B NESBA guy but I am easily a midpack STT I guy (I know since I have done both numerous times). Also, the riders in NESBA I are much more in control of their bike and run a much more precise line.
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FTR - Putnam - Biggy recorded a lap time 1:26 and change and was running I with STT...
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