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post #1 of 38 (permalink) Old 08-07-2007, 10:30 AM Thread Starter
 
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RC51 or 750 for next track bike?

Starting to think of bumping up in bikes...the R6 has done pretty well for me though. Going with a 750 would give me more spares and parts options, but those RC's always look nice out on the track too. It would be a jump in weight, but they're smooth rides. Any suggestions for 2nd track bike?
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lots of money to make the big pig 51 fast for the track. do the 750 if price is a consideration.

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G2G will tell you not to get an RC for a track bike and I would agree unless you are going to put it on a diet and do some motor work to get the power up. I can not pull away from new 750's on mine at the track.

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get a 250 GP bike if it's going to be track only.
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Before you do anything, try a 675. It eats tracks for breakfast
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Before you do anything, try a 675. It eats tracks for breakfast
Not as easy to find one all set for the track and for a good price. I'll give you $3000 for yours if you're interested
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get a 250 GP bike if it's going to be track only.
Might be a wee bit small for me.
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Might be a wee bit small for me.
Youd be surprised.

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a newer 750 is the way to go! i would love one if I had some money...or room.

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6' 3" and about 260
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6' 3" and about 260
oh... 250 might not work for you then. Although Celtic racing's Mark Kelly is 6'4 and 250 and he absolutely fucking rips on one. But then again, he also looks like he's riding a pocketbike.
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Don't let the screen name fool you, he is tiny.
I think you left already, but there was this little asian guy we played 32 with...he weighed maybe 110lbs. All alone he the thought apparently entered his mind to plant himself and take the charge as I went up for a layup...it felt like a loose screen door hit my shoulder
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I think you left already, but there was this little asian guy we played 32 with...he weighed maybe 110lbs. All alone he the thought apparently entered his mind to plant himself and take the charge as I went up for a layup...it felt like a loose screen door hit my shoulder
Thats comedy right there! He will learn. The people I play ball with regularly no better then to try to take a charge on me. And I am not as big as you.

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I agree with Vcook and MM racing. It take alot and i mean alot of money to get that RC 51 to get around a track fast. Also they are heavy as all hell.
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I sort of like not having the same thing as everyone else. A gix 750 should be a better, more capable bike. The fact that so many other riders have GSXR series bikes means that spares can be easily borrowed. blah blahh.
Great track bike, no doubt.

The other side is that rider skill is the biggest factor. It is a track day, who cares how fast you are going. Ride something you want to ride. I love my Aprilia cup bike. Pretty much everything has more HP. so effin what.

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The other side is that rider skill is the biggest factor. It is a track day, who cares how fast you are going. Ride something you want to ride. I love my Aprilia cup bike. Pretty much everything has more HP. so effin what.
i cannot agree with this more. i see so many people out there confusing horse power and skill. take it from me and Dave here, if you can be the fast guy on a slow bike, it says much more for your skill as a rider, then being the guy on the 180hp bike.

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i doubt you are riding the R6 to its full potential. if guys are walking away from you in the straights, you need to have more corner speed. and judging by your avatar, your body position needs work and with a few simple fixes, you could be shaving seconds off your time on that same R6.

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But why ride something that he is going to have to work extra hard to push around the track?? Have any of you guys rode or raced an RC 51 on the track?? It is no easy feat. That is why you don't sey many out there. Shit my best friends ar rc51.org ride different bikes on the track. reason being is they are a hard and expensive to get going quickly around the track. If he wasn't out there to go fast he would be working his skills on a ninja 250
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You know what, this is the only forum I've been on that has bashed RC51s. Yes they may be overweight but from what I've read they handle great.
Now mind you I have never ridden a 51 so I'm just going on what I have read in magazines and other sources.
Most people by them for other reasons besides being the outright fastest machine out there.
And by the way I do see quite a few RC51s at the track actually
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RCs are good bikes, i have just heard you have to do a lot of suspension work on them to make them great.

i was looking for one before i got the duc.

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You know what, this is the only forum I've been on that has bashed RC51s. Yes they may be overweight but from what I've read they handle great.
Now mind you I have never ridden a 51 so I'm just going on what I have read in magazines and other sources.
Most people by them for other reasons besides being the outright fastest machine out there.
And by the way I do see quite a few RC51s at the track actually
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I would like to know what racetrack you have been attending because the only time I have seen more than 2 rc51's at the track is when we have our annual event at Barber with the rc.51org event. Not bashing the bike but the bike hasent changed in 7 years. Only minor changes have been done. Got to a CCS or WERA event and tell me how many RC 51's you see. You said you have never riden one only read about them. Exactly!!!! Go ride one on the track and tell me how you like it.
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I am at B pace and the 51 is a fun bike, but you can really feel its dated suspension and weight on the tighter tracks. Even at BHF it felt heavy and for sure not flickable.

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If you want a second bike, and it is NOT going to be the same as your primary, get a Gixxer 6 so that some of the parts can be interchangeable. A 600 would be far more flexible on many tracks, and is a great learning tool for the 1000s. At A pace, you need something that corners well. And it is certainly a different ride than a 1000.

If not a Gixxer 6, get a 600 or some sort of light twin. You need a DIFFERENT riding bike to make it worth have the second bike.

RC51, no way!
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You need a DIFFERENT riding bike to make it worth have the second bike.
That is why I got the Mille. Total opposite of the RS250 cup bike.

Even being a bigger guy, you could get a SV650 and learn to flog it.
It worked out pretty well for my "little" brother. He made it to NESBA A on his SV650

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