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post #1 of 9 (permalink) Old 09-05-2007, 06:26 PM Thread Starter
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Race Classes - WSBK vs GP

What makes the rider do one or the other? I know the GP starts on 125's and tends to progress as the rider does (allowing the younger to get in early) with cc's and WSB has the AMA approach from a class and cc standpoint but what makes the rider choose one over the other? - Do you have to be invited to GP or is it the same as any Race Class?

I was watching 250 GP and was wondering why these guys chose GP and not WSB? - Many riders have gone to GP from WSB and many have just climbed from 125 to 250 to 500 to 990 back to 800 but what does it take to get into these clases both GP and WSB?

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I would say it's all about 'being seen'...by whom, and at what time dictates a lot. European riders tend to gravitate towards GP, because that, and smaller, local classes governed similarly are the norm in those locals...while in America, Australia, Japan and Britain the race structure mimics a 'production series'...like World Superbike, conveniently enough invented or created by an American Many Italians too, because of Ducati's lifelong affiliation with the series, find themselves vested in World Superbike.

At the highest level, GP and WSB (as opposed to Supersport or Superstock) team members are often chosen simply from a pool of the most talented riders from the perspective of career achievements, and thus the conglomerate of riders from all different backgrounds...despite the constant suggestion that 125 and 250 support series will take over (this has been said for many moons now )

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Yeah, it makes sense - They all race the same tracks and I never took into consideration the Factory play in WSB vs GP aspect as I know the GP bikes are moded to the gills

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I think that the move to 800cc's ( back from 990cc's ) has reestablished
the 125 - 250 - 800 lineage.

The 990's rode more like superbikes, the 800's rely much more on 250-like cornerspeed to make good lap times.


It very much has to do with who notices who.


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So GP is more of an "invite" that WSB? I would think you start in GP on the 125's with hopes of moving up I guess but is it an "eye out for talent" even at the 125 stages?

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I think it's more related to where (what country) a rider is born and how early they start their careers.

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So GP is more of an "invite" that WSB? I would think you start in GP on the 125's with hopes of moving up I guess but is it an "eye out for talent" even at the 125 stages?
Check out the Red Bull Rookies Cup...so yes, they start looking EARLY.

http://www.redbullrookiescup.com/

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There are lots of routes.

GP classes and WSB are dominated by European teams because most of those world series' events are in Europe.

If you live in Europe, you have a distinct advantage in that you'll know some tracks. Or you could travel to them from your home country. Europe really isn't that big. Additionally, a good rider might be exposed to a team principle or someone else that may allow for some exchange for, initially, set up information, test rides, etc.

There are seldom private riders in any GP classes. Used to be a few when the open class was 500cc two strokes...brutal machines. WSB will have a few "wild card" riders. You can't ride an FIM event without an FIM license issued to you through your FIM affiliate. In the US, that's the AMA.

For US riders...seems like riders that go from the AMA to the world championship stuff...they move right into MotoGP, or the previous 500cc championship. Only a few have done 250's in Europe or something before riding 500's.

The other side is that really fast riders can make some decent money in the US compared to trying to break in too early into the European market.

I think there are a few US riders in Germany with some connections trying to move up in the local German and European Supersport championships to get a ride in WSB or WSS.



If you wanted, you could buy a ride. There are plenty of people that are buying rides in the AMA. Only a small number are salaried riders.

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Thanks Lads - After watching the 250 GP race, it just got me thinking of the (2) series' and how these riders decide on which to enter

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