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post #1 of 10 (permalink) Old 12-18-2007, 06:16 PM Thread Starter
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Anyone updating to a new bike and trying TC. It seems the future is here.
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I see this potentially changing club racing significantly. The recent RRW article on the MGP bikes shows how far TC has advanced at the highest level. What % of that technology trickles down to club racers, and who has the $ and time and testing to exploit it? I suspect the Bazzaz just raised the ante for many riders.

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or buy a '08 CBR1000 or ZX10, both have TC from the factory.
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Do you know how tuneable those factory systems will be?

The nice thing about the Baazzzzzzzzazzzz or however it is pronounced is that they are backwards compatable to the 05 gixers.

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Giving everyday squids equal footing on the track. Lame.. Let them learn to respect the power. Then they can appreciate it.

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I'm kind of glad TC is coming out now. I say this because I know it will be a few years until I buy one. that should give me enough time to learn to respect the power, and then upgrade to TC. Should be pretty cool. I'd like to abuse it...i mean try it.

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Giving everyday squids equal footing on the track. Lame.. Let them learn to respect the power. Then they can appreciate it.
Just think how much fun you will have chasing down the violaters and rule breakers on literbikes with TC.

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Just think how much fun you will have chasing down the violaters and rule breakers on literbikes with TC.
Yup. It will just give me more motivation to improve my cornering speed.

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TC still doesn't work on the front wheel.

I don't see where it's going to make a dramatic difference for most riders. It will still require some set up. And if the TC were set for a sticky tire, you're gonna get tossed with a crummy tire.

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It seemed to work pretty well on the Jordan bikes 2 years ago, before there was TC in the AMA.
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Agreed this adds another layer of complexity and $ to get it right. As for tires, I do not know, but I suspect there will be many maps available at the touch of a button. I imagine a sequential button that the rider clicks for each turn and it's corresponding map would not be too far fetched or expensive.
Again, tuning, testing and set-up $ are going to be a factor.

What if one of your close competitors gets TC set up right? Do you not have to step up, or be left behind?

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There was talk, and they sounded different, that Yosh had it as early as 2002 or 2003.

But re read my post. If you're going out on new tires all the time, and if you have the budget to do more test dates than races, you can probably get it right. Jordan still didn't win all the time did they? Have they won any races?


As for me, I'm old, and I don't have anything near the budget that the people that I race against. People I race against have replacement fort cartridges, built motors, Power Commanders, more tires, a person helping them, a spare bike, shocks rebuilt one or two times a year, and the list goes on.

When riders get that stuff AND they couple it with good riding, I'll get beat. Actually, TC isn't necessary is it then? The 2006 R6 already had a form of traction control in it, and I didn't see any huge reduction in lap times from riders on R6's.

It still doesn't control slip from the front tire.

I think it's kind of cool, yes. Will I be forced to buy it? I dunno. I think the extra cost on the Bazzaz stuff for it is reasonable. Sounds like it has good tuneability and all, and that's probably going to be the biggest thing that makes it valuable in addition to having it set up well by someone that really knows how a dyno works. The O2 sensor stuff sounds very good though. Might be the way around it, but, unfortunately, an O2 sensor will be messed up by leaded racing fuel, which works better than unleaded, so...

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