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post #1 of 43 (permalink) Old 01-17-2008, 10:41 PM Thread Starter
 
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First set of leathers....

I tried on a buddies set of AGV Podium One Piece leathers and they fit pretty good. I am a big guy, 6'5" 280lbs. His were a size 52 and they zipped up and fit decent. I thought maybe they were a bit tight although they did fit ok. So I found a super deal on a set of the same exact leathers that were brand new in size 54 so I thought they should fit PERFECT.....

I was so happy!!!


Well today the UPS guy comes with my awesome brand new set of leathers....I am even more happy because this is my first set of leathers and the reality of being out on the track is starting to take shape....

Well I went ahead and just got done prying myself into them.....legs barely want to get into them....I pull them down so I can get them zipped on the legs so my calf isnt cut with the zipper....ok no big deal they should stretch...

pull them up and the thighs are mighty tight...very tight compared to my buddies 52.....no big whoop as those might stretch too....

crotch is VERY tight but ass is ok so I can live with my nutz getting crushed I guess for a little while until I hunch over the bike....and it might stretch some there too.....the size 52 still had more room...

now for the fun part....right arm in after contorting my body....stand hunched for a minute because it wont let me straighten out.....try the left arm and its a no go!! I am starting to think I made a horrible purchase....

drop to my knees to kinda stretch out what I have in it so far hoping that the stitching holds....it does as this is a pretty quality suit I guess....try the left arm again and it gets half on...enough so that I am contorted like Houdini breaking out of a straight jacket....off it comes, cant get it all the way on....

Ok, lets try a different approach.....left arm first, stretch it out good....now right arm.....hey, maybe my right arm can bend more or something because it went in pretty easy comparitively....ok, so I cant stand up....ah no big deal...you are bent over a bike anyway....

so now the bad part and the worst part of all.....IT WILL NOT ZIP...NOT EVEN CLOSE!!! Got about 4-5 inches at least before the zipper will touch!!!!

This is the absolute worst feeling....why would a size 52 fit when this 54 wont?? I know the 52 was broken in but 5 inches of stretch....are you kidding me??

I hope there is a way to make this stretch a lot or I am out money as this was on closeout and cant be returned....

Can anyone please give me an idea on how to get this to stretch....oh and in case anyone wants to say, "Lose weight and it will fit."........I already know that!

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From what I hear they stretch also was advised to use baby powder in them to loosen the leather. thats what i did with my leather pants

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...This is the absolute worst feeling....why would a size 52 fit when this 54 wont?? I know the 52 was broken in but 5 inches of stretch....are you kidding me??...

There are US and UK sizes, they vary by about 10, so a 54 may actually be a 44.

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+1, you probably got a size 54 European suit which is like sz 44 US. You need a size 64Euro/54US suit.

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+1, you probably got a size 54 European suit which is like sz 44 US. You need a size 64Euro/54US suit.
I agree...you bought a 54 European. Check the tag

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They wont stretch that much, at least not in torso direction. I agree with the others about euro vs. US sizing. That sucks for U. Put em on ebay or try to sell in the for sale forum here.

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I agree...you bought a 54 European. Check the tag

It didnt state Euro on anything when I bought it. Got it from Kneedraggers. Here is the listing from my reciept...

1 AGVSport Podium One Piece Leather Suit - Black/Red/Gunmetal - 54
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the tag on the suit itself just says 54....would there be any other markings to show as a Euro? I dont think its a 44 or anything really that much smaller as the length of the suit for the legs and the arms are just right....its just super tight! Oh and that little problem without being round enough...
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This might help in finding your correct size:

http://www.agvsport.com/www/jacketssizing.asp

Usually the tag indicates US or EU - if not, maybe that will help you with the return policy.

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Pretty sure AGV being a European company everything would be labeled for the European market.

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I have looked around at kneedraggers and I think they only sell US sizes....I plan to call them when they open at 11am to see if they can confirm if it was a US size. I also sent an email to agv to see what they say on the sizing issue..

I gotta believe it is a US size....the 54 Euro is for a guy 5'6-6'0......This suit is way taller than that. That is one aspect it seems taller than the 52 of my buddies.
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Man, I would think a 54 would be plenty big as well. I wear an AGV suit and during this last season I was 6'3" 245 lbs and I had a size 48 suit. It was just about the perfect length in the legs and arms and about right in the torso, but flapped in the wind in my legs and arms. I can't imagine a 54 not fitting... that sucks.
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I tried on a buddies set of AGV Podium One Piece leathers and they fit pretty good. I am a big guy, 6'5" 280lbs.
Yeah, you need a 54 US suit easy, if not a little bigger.

I've heard some guys that had leathers custom done by AGV that were way too small. Never too big, but definitely too small.

Stretching them? Um, no. Send 'em back. Start over. They aren't right.

Personally, I use [http://www.vansonleathers.com]Vanson[/url]. You're gonna pay, but at the end of years of service, I still have something to keep as a spare or two, repair, or sell. Look for some used ones. A 54 US.

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I tried on a buddies set of AGV Podium One Piece leathers and they fit pretty good. I am a big guy, 6'5" 280lbs.
Yeah, you need a 54 US suit easy, if not a little bigger.

I've heard some guys that had leathers custom done by AGV that were way too small. Never too big, but definitely too small.

Stretching them? Um, no. Send 'em back. Start over. They aren't right.

Personally, I use Vanson. You're gonna pay, but at the end of years of service, I still have something to keep as a spare or two, repair, or sell. Look for some used ones. A 54 US.

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called kneedraggers and they said it is a US size......now I am even stumped further as to why the 52 fit and this 54 wont.....


maybe I was just having a fat day.....I will try them on again sometime to see if I lost any "water" weight since.....maybe I'll go hit the sauna then put them on and hope they zip.....then just not take them off.....FOREVER! This truly sucks!

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I'm wondering if since it came off a UPS truck and was really cold out if the leather shrunk up quite a bit.....maybe if I heat the leather it will stretch??? Not like roast it on a fire but just set it next to the furnace vent? I did wait about 3-4 hours of the suit being in my house before I tried it on due to it being cold but maybe that wasnt enough....
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called kneedraggers and they said it is a US size
don't believe everything they tell you...I still think they sent you the wrong size.

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I'm wondering if since it came off a UPS truck and was really cold out if the leather shrunk up quite a bit.
If the leather is shrinking as much as what you're portraying, you probably shouldn't be wearing that set of leathers for protection.

Bottomline, you don't have the right size suit.

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don't believe everything they tell you...I still think they sent you the wrong size.

I dont think they sell Euro sizes.....I checked their site and all the other suits are labeled as just one size....not two different for US and Euro....I would hope that they are selling all US sizes instead of all Euro sizes.

The thing is, is that the length is definately the right size or close....and the arms are right...just not in the gut. The suit itself seems bigger in length than the 52 of my buddies and the arms seem to be just as long as the 52 too.....

I am going to warm up the suit and then give it another try on tomorrow or something...
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The thing is, is that the length is definately the right size or close....and the arms are right...just not in the gut. The suit itself seems bigger in length than the 52 of my buddies and the arms seem to be just as long as the 52 too.....
You said in the first post you couldnt even stand up- that would indicate not long enough in the torso (regardless of your gut girth).................

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You said in the first post you couldnt even stand up- that would indicate not long enough in the torso (regardless of your gut girth).................

No I can stand up in them, just when first trying them on they were tight and I kinda hunched over, like the hunchback of notre dame.....after being in them for a minute or two I was able to stand up......
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If you could get into them and they were tight, I'd say you could stretch them. If you can't get into them, your not even in the ballpark. They will stretch, especially if you ride in the rain.

It's like shopping for pants. Every style, manufacturer and design has it's own cut. I've tried on a 48 and it was fine, but it was for someone taller. I've squeezed into another 48 but couldn't get a spine protector on. My leathers are a 52.

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Bah lay on the floor and have someone stand on the gut while you zip them up

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Bah lay on the floor and have someone stand on the gut while you zip them up

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That might work....tried them on again today and took some pics to better visualize what the problem is...

I am sitting right now with them on trying to maybe somehow stretch them out.
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Remember that you will probably want to wear a back protector inside there as well.

My vote: give up trying to stretch them and send them back for a different size.

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Remember that you will probably want to wear a back protector inside there as well.

My vote: give up trying to stretch them and send them back for a different size.

Yeah a back protector....was already thinking about that added problem too...

Your probably right....I should just give up on these. Problem is now, I dont even know where or how to begin with finding a size that might fit. Since my friends 52 in this exact same brand and model suit fit, getting the 54 was a no brainer.....at least in my mind. There arent any shops around here that stock these things so its always a mail order type of thing, and the guess work of wondering if they will fit. I dont want to have this same problem again...


Would a leather shop be able to do anything to help you think?
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I would get on the phone with customer support before you tried altering them. Have them make sure they are not mislabeled - maybe take some measurements. You paid them, part of that price is customer support - they do this all the time, you can't be the first person to have a suit that doesn't fit. Let them help you. And even if you have to pay to send them back it will still probably be cheaper than having them customized.

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I would get on the phone with customer support before you tried altering them. Have them make sure they are not mislabeled - maybe take some measurements. You paid them, part of that price is customer support - they do this all the time, you can't be the first person to have a suit that doesn't fit. Let them help you. And even if you have to pay to send them back it will still probably be cheaper than having them customized.
I wish I could return them or at the very least exchange them but, Kneedraggers wont take them back....it is there policy to not return or exchange clearance items. When I called them to inquire about the size being US or Euro the guy who answered acted like he didnt really want to help me. He did however seem like he looked it up and asked someone else when he put me on hold to find out that they are US sizing. The girl who was working their live chat session the other day did however help me out and said they would send me the right shoulder CE Armor it was missing when I got the suit. So for that I am happy. So at least whoever ends up with this suit will have everything with it that should come with a brand new suit. I havent got it in the mail yet but hopefully it will arrive.

I was planning on dropping a few pounds this year and this might just be the incentive I needed....who knows, maybe you will see them in the For Sale section soon...

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Send it back. It looks short. You'll be in better shape with a back protector, and that will make everything worse. It's not going to stretch. This ain't cycle racin' like Lance Armstrong.

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