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Avg cost for a track day?

I tried searching but found nothing and since I've never been to the track I've been curious as to what the costs are that i might miss? Since I plan on doing track this year I need to set a budget for it.

Here's what i figured:

Gas to get whereever? = $100
Track day = $200-$300 (depending on if you stay 1 day or 2)
5 Gallon gas can = $20
Food = $50


Thats all i can think of, track junkies wanna chime in and help out?

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Add (cost of avg crash) * (probability of crash) If you expect to crash once in 20 days, your probability is 0.05. Say, cost of crash is $5000 (totaled bike + gear). So, add this probable cost of crash of $250 to a cost of the day.

This is semi-serious. . I've never done a track day myself.

Also, from what I hear, you need to add a cost of tires and oil spread over several days. Plus, if you're staying at a hotel, there will be a cost of accommodations.

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see i didnt calculate tires because i dont imagine running that hard to run out tires in a weekend? Im not sure how fast the paces go and i dont know where i'd stand in em.

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I tried searching but found nothing and since I've never been to the track I've been curious as to what the costs are that i might miss? Since I plan on doing track this year I need to set a budget for it.

Here's what i figured:

Gas to get whereever? = $100
Track day = $200-$300 (depending on if you stay 1 day or 2)
5 Gallon gas can = $20
Food = $50


Thats all i can think of, track junkies wanna chime in and help out?

EZ-up 100-200 bucks
Tools ?
trailer few grand
chairs
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tires tires tires
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but your per weekend costs are pretty close. dont forget to add beer to that. at least 50 bucks. also fill the bikes tank on your way up plus a 5 gallon gas can or two (I always brought 2). if it's road america bring more.




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Add (cost of avg crash) * (probability of crash) If you expect to crash once in 20 days, your probability is 0.05. Say, cost of crash is $5000 (totaled bike + gear). So, add this probable cost of crash of $250 to a cost of the day.

This is semi-serious. . I've never done a track day myself.

Also, from what I hear, you need to add a cost of tires and oil spread over several days. Plus, if you're staying at a hotel, there will be a cost of accommodations.
Well its gonna be a throw away bike so if i crash ill ziptie the thing together for all i care. Not gonna lose my cash just because i crash, I've heard to bring extra levers ect

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You don't want to ride on old street tires, they will turn to rocks with heat cycle. Tires aren't something to cheap out on.

NESBA and STT have awesome deals on tires. NESBA has Pirelli's and STT has Michelin's, you won't find a better deal anywhere else.
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but your per weekend costs are pretty close. dont forget to add beer to that. at least 50 bucks. also fill the bikes tank on your way up plus a 5 gallon gas can or two (I always brought 2). if it's road america bring more.

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Well its gonna be a throw away bike so if i crash ill ziptie the thing together for all i care. Not gonna lose my cash just because i crash, I've heard to bring extra levers ect
That's a fine logic, but I'm not talking about broken levers or scratches. Say, frame damage, bent forks? That can be expensive.

Also, there can be medical expenses and cost to replace a gear. If you use Shoei / Arai and bump it in lowside, that's a minimum of $400 added to the cost of the day.

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You don't want to ride on old street tires, they will turn to rocks with heat cycle. Tires aren't something to cheap out on.

NESBA and STT have awesome deals on tires. NESBA has Pirelli's and STT has Michelin's, you won't find a better deal anywhere else.
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cbr - maybe 500-1000
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tread is still good and no flat spots. I got the tires for both last year

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wow surprised nobody put in the cost of gear, race suit, gloves and boots.
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well thats a one time thing, ill shop around for that.

I was just asking the avg cost so i can budget for it.

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If you are planning on track days Mark, plan on buying a new bike every weekend.
Mark has some pretty good gear, a one piece and boots and you should be set. Your SUV is ok to pull a trailer, right?
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Mark has some pretty good gear, a one piece and boots and you should be set. Your SUV is ok to pull a trailer, right?
as long as they remove the soccer moms in minivans and all curbs i think i'll be alright

Yea Ive got mulitple helmets (agv, arai) and 2 sets of gauntlet gloves so all i really wanna get is the locking boots (which i think puma makes those) and a 1 piece and ill be good to go gear wise. I have boots, but they are basic sidi 3/4 with only minimal protection in a crash, nothing id use on the track because knowing myself I will push myself to go faster and absorbing as much as possible.

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Yea the truck can pull 5000lbs so im ok to tug some little bikes
That rating probably includes the weight of the truck.
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That rating probably includes the weight of the truck.
weight of the truck is like 4200lbs or something, if that was the case i couldnt tow a case of beer behind me

na its 5000lb tow weight and 500lb tongue.

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When you trailer shop, look into a used enclosed. I see them go on craigslist cheap all the time. There is a trailer shop/storage place by me. If you want I can swing by and see what they have. They repo trailers
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that are behind in rent, some go for a fantastic price. Just remember to pick up a friends bike if they want to do a track day with you.
Of course, any track day i do ill offer the open spot.

If i can get an enclosed for under $800 id do it but from what ive seen they are more than that. Would def be nicer to have it though.

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That's a fine logic, but I'm not talking about broken levers or scratches. Say, frame damage, bent forks? That can be expensive.

Also, there can be medical expenses and cost to replace a gear. If you use Shoei / Arai and bump it in lowside, that's a minimum of $400 added to the cost of the day.
heh we all know mark doesnt carry insurance until he gets hurt and then posts what he should do to scam the insurance companies
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Travel Gas - You going to Blackhawk or Barber (wide range)
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Bike - use street or get dedicated track
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Weekly Costs -
Travel Gas - You going to Blackhawk or Barber (wide range)
Track Day - Ranges from $165 a weekend to ~$350 a weekend (weekend is both days)
Food - we cook out, makes it real cheap
Sleeping - we camp in trailer, makes it free
Bike Gas - a little more than 5 gallons a day for big bikes, less than 5 a day for small bikes
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That sounds perfect, are there guys on the nesba forums or anything selling trailers?

Next question is how grueling is it to do 2 days back to back? Ive heard by the end of the first day your worn out and i'd hate to sign up for 2 track days and not be able to do them.

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Trackdays are expensive, this is true. Know the risks (of crashing and getting hurt) before you get on the track. If you're not in a good situation financially, don't do it. If you are, don't add the costs of crashing unless you plan on doing it. Do you add the costs of crashing everytime you street ride?

Your costs are just about right. Things I would spend money on for a typical trackday.
-Fuel for the bike
-extra fuel (5 gallon)
-Fuel for the truck
-Cost of the trackday
-Food, water
-Tires only if you need them. If you bought them last year and only street rode 500 miles, they are probably fine for B pace. Have someone look at them for you if you're not sure.
-Add hotel costs if you plan on hitting a track like putnam.
-If that is a street ride, I would totally recommend you shell out the money for some cheap race plastics. It'll cost you big time if you drop that bike and ruin the headlights and plastics.

My budget was tight, so no beer and steaks for me. If you are on a tight budget, there are still ways to get out there. Find a trackday buddy and ride share, split food costs,.....etc.

You don't need to buy top of the line stuff. Look around and find good deals on good quality gear. Puma boots and an enclosed trailer sound good, but do you know for sure that you will be doind this next year? Play it smart man.

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post #28 of 42 (permalink) Old 04-26-2008, 12:39 PM
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That sounds perfect, are there guys on the nesba forums or anything selling trailers?

Next question is how grueling is it to do 2 days back to back? Ive heard by the end of the first day your worn out and i'd hate to sign up for 2 track days and not be able to do them.

Wink, i know you got buttloads of takeoff's
2 days in a row isn't too bad, physically if you're in decent shape.

As far as the trailer, I'd recommend just renting one until you know you're going to be doing this for awhile. Its cheaper and you don't need to worry about storage or maintenance or anything like that.

If I'm not mistaken, your MDX should be able to handle a Moto-tote. They run about 400ish and allow you to haul a bike without the cons of having a trailer or having to go pick up a rental.

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post #29 of 42 (permalink) Old 04-26-2008, 12:49 PM
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That sounds perfect, are there guys on the nesba forums or anything selling trailers?

Next question is how grueling is it to do 2 days back to back? Ive heard by the end of the first day your worn out and i'd hate to sign up for 2 track days and not be able to do them.

Wink, i know you got buttloads of takeoff's
So, it is all up to your conditioning. I an just a slow old fart, but I have no problem running back to back sessions two full days. That equals between 30-40 sessions a weekend for me.

Body position also has a lot to do with the effort required. SO, get in shape if you aren't already. You can build up your endurance on the track as well. The key is, when you are tired, sit the session. Do NOT go out and just ride half-assed. if you have that discipline, you'll do fine.

As far as my take-offs, you don't want mine. I have a tendency to destroy tires.

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i have a nice set of supercorsa pro takeoffs I can sell if you need them mark. as for costs, yeah it gets expensive but so worth it. i'd recommend tagging along with someone the first weekend or two before you buy everything. then of you like it dive deep into the bank account. i figure I am spending about $8k this season.

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