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So you think you're fast... Oct 11&12 Trackday people & racers CASH PAYOUTS

Midwest Motorsports Festival is putting on 2 day event at Blackhawk Farms Oct 11 & 12th Ultimate Speed Challenge. This event will include cars, karts, and motorcycles all in their separate sessions. The fastest Car, Kart, and Motorcycle (in their main events) will advance to the Ultimate Speed Challenge for additional purse money. DGY is presenting the motorcycle portion of the event. There is going to be a Pro/Expert Unlimited class (10 lap sprint) with huge cash payouts. We are also doing 3 other Novice classes (no race license required) these are going to be timed sessions also with CASH payouts, prizes and trophies. Novice classes will be a Novice Lightweight Grand Prix, Novice Unlimited Grand Prix, and an all woman’s Unlimited class. This is the first time there is going to be an all Female class in our area. All the Novice classes’ are going to be timed sessions, so the fastest lap will qualify you for the main event and your fastest lap in the main will determine your finishing position. There is no head to head racing so trackday guys/gals who don’t want to mix it up racing in a full out sprint can just throw down a fast lap in a *timed practice session* and have bragging rights for the fastest lap.

The format is pretty simple for the Novice classes. On Saturday you’ll get 2 rounds of practice and then a timed qualifying session. The Top 10 of the Saturday Qualifying session will advance to the Main Event on Sunday. There will be one round of practice on Sunday and then a LCQ (last chance qualifier) in which the top ten of each qualifying session will advance to their Main Event. The Main Events on Sunday will be 15 min timed sessions. Like an open practice that’s timed. The fastest times of the Main Event will determine your finishing position for the Main and your share of the purse.

For the Pro/Expert class the qualifying session on Saturday will determine your grid spot for Sunday’s Main Event. The Main Event will be a 10 lap sprint.

The Fastest Motorcycle single lap during their main event will advance to the Ultimate Speed Challenge.

Eligibility for the Novice classes, if you have a race license you CAN NOT have an Expert or pro classification in any organization. It is encouraged if you hold a roadrace license to enter the expert/ pro class. If you are a Female who wishes to run in both the Woman’s Unlimited Class and the Novice class you must enter in both classes.

EXPERT / PRO CLASS ROAD RACING LICENSE REQUIREMENTS
All riders MUST have a valid Race License for 2008 in good standing with their respective race sanctioning body. All riders will be required to show their current photo ID and their current road racing license upon registration at the track facility. Accepted racing sanctions include but not limited to: AFM, ARHMA, AMA, ASRA, CMRA, CCS, CRA, MOTO-ST, MRA, OMRRA, SMRI, WERA, USGPRU, VMOTO, WMRRA, and WSMC.
Riders categorized, as expert in any racing sanction must race in expert level racing categories in MIDWEST MOTORSPORTS FESTIVAL EVENTS.

There will be a website up and running Monday morning with all the info. Preregistration will be available on line.


Below are the Payouts:
PAYOUTS FOR NOVICE AND WOMEN’S CLASSES

NOVICE / WOMEN’S 2 CLASSES - LIGHTWEIGHT / UNLIMITED

1 $ 500.00 PLUS TROPHY PLUS PRIZE
2 $ 350.00 PLUS TROPHY PLUS PRIZE
3 $ 275.00 PLUS TROPHY PLUS PRIZE
4 $ 225.00 PLUS TROPHY PLUS PRIZE
5 $ 200.00 PLUS TROPHY PLUS PRIZE
6 $ 75.00 PLUS TROPHY PLUS PRIZE
7 $ 75.00 PLUS TROPHY PLUS PRIZE
8 $ 75.00 PLUS TROPHY PLUS PRIZE
9 $ 75.00 PLUS TROPHY PLUS PRIZE
10 $ 75.00 PLUS TROPHY PLUS PRIZE
11-20 $ 75.00 PLUS TROPHY PLUS PRIZE

PAYOUTS FOR EXPERT / PRO RACE

EXPERT / PRO 1 CLASS - UNLIMITED

1 $ 4,000.00 PLUS TROPHY
2 $ 3,000.00 PLUS TROPHY
3 $ 2,000.00 PLUS TROPHY
4 $ 1,000.00 PLUS TROPHY
5 $ 500.00 PLUS TROPHY
6 $ 250.00 PLUS TROPHY
7 $ 150.00 PLUS TROPHY
8 $ 100.00 PLUS TROPHY
9 $ 125.00 PLUS TROPHY
10 $ 100.00 PLUS TROPHY
11 $ 75.00 PLUS TROPHY
12 $ 75.00 PLUS TROPHY
13 $ 75.00 PLUS TROPHY
14 $ 75.00 PLUS TROPHY
15 $ 75.00 PLUS TROPHY
16- 20 $ 50.00 PLUS TROPHY



Here are the rules for the Ultimate Speed Challenge at the end of the day Sunday.

ULTIMATE SPEED CHALLENGE

The ULTIMATE SPEED CHALLENGE will feature the fastest single car, motorcycle, and kart of the weekend in a Timed Head-To-Head Challenge Event that will award over $5,000 in cash and prizes to the competitors. Over the course of the weekend we will track the lap times of all competitors during our sessions and races to establish the single Car, Kart, and Motorcycle that will advance to compete into this prestigious event.

The three qualified competitors will wrap up our weekend of activities with an exciting Challenge format that will decide who is our champion of speed in 2008.

The Format
1. One Kart, One Car, One Motorcycle
2. One Warm Up Lap Each
3. Three Timed Speed Laps Each
4. One Cool Down Lap Each
5. Fastest Single Lap wins the Challenge

Handicap System
1. The three qualifiers will use their fastest lap of the weekend’s seesion/race as the Handicap Time
2. The time difference between each Class (Bike, Kart, Car) will be added to the starting time of the fastest qualifying competitor (i.e. if the car has qualified for the event at 1minute 12 seconds, and the Bike has qualified at 1 minute 9 seconds, and the Kart has qualified at 1 minute, 14 seconds then the Bike will have 3 seconds added to its start time against the car and 5 seconds added to its start time against the Kart. The Car will add 2 seconds to its start time against the Kart.
3. The Handicap time additions will be added to the fastest lap run within the Challenge event

Awards & Prizes
1st Place $2,500 Plus Prizes and Trophy
2nd Place $1,000 Plus Prizes and Trophy
3rd Place $500 Plus Prizes and Trophy

Eligibility
1. Anyone that has paid the required registration fee and has requested a transponder reading will be eligible
2. All classes of cars. Karts, motorcycles will be eligible

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So there isn't classes based on bike size?

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So there isn't classes based on bike size?

Hey Wink, can I borrow the kws?
LOL kinda either LWGP or Unlimited. But yeah it's as good as it sounds...

We are also doing 3 other Novice classes (no race license required) these are going to be timed sessions also with CASH payouts, prizes and trophies. Novice classes will be a Novice Lightweight Grand Prix, Novice Unlimited Grand Prix, and an all woman’s Unlimited class. This is the first time there is going to be an all Female class in our area. All the Novice classes’ are going to be timed sessions, so the fastest lap will qualify you for the main event and your fastest lap in the main will determine your finishing position. There is no head to head racing so trackday guys/gals who don’t want to mix it up racing in a full out sprint can just throw down a fast lap in a *timed practice session* and have bragging rights for the fastest lap.


Keep in mind for the Novice stuff and the Woman's class it's not a race just a timed session. Who can do the fastest lap in their class.
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What is classified as lightweight? Don't tell Gu about this I don't want to put the 250 against his SV.

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2008 MIDWEST MOTORSPORTS FESTIVAL Series Class Structure

The MIDWEST MOTORSPORTS FESTIVAL class structure is intended to consolidate large numbers of various class structures in to a smaller number of classes that provide a more exciting format of participant racing that can be attractive to a spectator opportunity. Each class will have amateur and expert classifications.

Classes are intended for street production motorcycles and purpose built racing motorcycles. The intention is to provide a racing opportunity to a unique cross section of modified and production motorcycles in two distinct performance categories. There are no horsepower or weight restrictions.

LIGHTWEIGHT
Two stroke, liquid cooled, up to 450cc
Two stroke, air cooled, unlimited displacement
Single cylinder, unlimited displacement
Twin cylinder, air cooled, push rod, unlimited displacement
Twin cylinder, liquid cooled, 3 or less valves per cylinder, unlimited displacement
Twin cylinder, liquid cooled, 4 valves per cylinder, up to 750cc
Twin cylinder, liquid cooled, non-desmodromic valves, 4 valves per cylinder, up to 800cc
Three cylinder, air cooled, non-fuel injected, up to 1200cc
Four cylinder, air-cooled, up to 1200cc
Four cylinders, liquid cooled, 1990 to 1992 model year, up to 650cc
Four cylinder, liquid cooled (oil or water), pre-1990 model year, up to
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NOTE: BMW HP2 and Buell XBRR machines are excluded

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Ok, while I'm not so much about a women's class (I don't think my gender is a handicap), this sounds like it could be fun, and it's cool that it puts racing in a non-threatening sort of format.

Just to be clear, the "experts" run like a regular race, while the women and "novices" run by themselves? Like, you get the whole track to yourself for a few laps? Or are a bunch of people out on the track and you're all just trying to get a good lap time?

Also, cross your fingers that it's not stupid arsing cold that weekend.

aaaaaand.... what's the entry fee per class??

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So there isn't classes based on bike size?

Hey Wink, can I borrow the kws?
Looks like a fun event Dan! Neat format.

So... 5th place Expert pays same as 1st place Novice. Hmmm....

Anyhow, back to Drama's question. The KWS is ABSOLUTELY the wrong bike for Blackhawk. Road America, Miller, Road Atlanta, sure it has a nice avantage. But for Blackhawk, I'd FAR rather be on a built 600 or a nice race 750.

Anyhow, looks like a great opportunity for everyone. Thanks for pulling this together DanO!!

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2008 MIDWEST MOTORSPORTS FESTIVAL Series Class Structure

The MIDWEST MOTORSPORTS FESTIVAL class structure is intended to consolidate large numbers of various class structures in to a smaller number of classes that provide a more exciting format of participant racing that can be attractive to a spectator opportunity. Each class will have amateur and expert classifications.

Classes are intended for street production motorcycles and purpose built racing motorcycles. The intention is to provide a racing opportunity to a unique cross section of modified and production motorcycles in two distinct performance categories. There are no horsepower or weight restrictions.

LIGHTWEIGHT
Two stroke, liquid cooled, up to 450cc
Two stroke, air cooled, unlimited displacement
Single cylinder, unlimited displacement
Twin cylinder, air cooled, push rod, unlimited displacement
Twin cylinder, liquid cooled, 3 or less valves per cylinder, unlimited displacement
Twin cylinder, liquid cooled, 4 valves per cylinder, up to 750cc
Twin cylinder, liquid cooled, non-desmodromic valves, 4 valves per cylinder, up to 800cc
Three cylinder, air cooled, non-fuel injected, up to 1200cc
Four cylinder, air-cooled, up to 1200cc
Four cylinders, liquid cooled, 1990 to 1992 model year, up to 650cc
Four cylinder, liquid cooled (oil or water), pre-1990 model year, up to
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NOTE: BMW HP2 and Buell XBRR machines are excluded

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These rules would allow a 748/749 to run as a light weight???

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He's bringing it up I'm sure because this has been talked about on the CCS board a bit lately, since a rules oversight currently allows for the 748 to be run in Ultralightweight SuperBike (A class currently populated by Honda Hawks, FZR 400s and Duc 750s)

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Head to Chicago, ride for 2 days, then head straight down to Daytona.... hmmmmmmm......

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These rules would allow a 748/749 to run as a light weight???

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well yeah technically..... Twin cylinder, liquid cooled, 4 valves per cylinder, up to 750cc
Twin cylinder, liquid cooled, non-desmodromic valves, 4 valves per cylinder, up to 800cc
But you have an expert license so you wouldn't be able to enter the novice classes.

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Ok, while I'm not so much about a women's class (I don't think my gender is a handicap), this sounds like it could be fun, and it's cool that it puts racing in a non-threatening sort of format.

Just to be clear, the "experts" run like a regular race, while the women and "novices" run by themselves? Like, you get the whole track to yourself for a few laps? Or are a bunch of people out on the track and you're all just trying to get a good lap time?
You can enter all the novice classes (womans, novice UL and novice LW) if you'd like...there is a chance you could win 4000 bucks (if you win all three novice classes 500 bucks each, you turn the fastest motorcycle lap and win the ultimate speed challenge.)

Yeah the expert/pro is a regular 10 lap sprint.
The Novice qualifying and mains will be a timed sessions. Tho the Main will only have the fastest 20.


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aaaaaand.... what's the entry fee per class??
ENTRANCE FEES:

PRE-ENTRY FEE NOVICE AND WOMEN’S CLASSES $225 PER ENTRY
PRE-ENTRY EXPERT / PRO CLASS $275 PER ENTRY
POST/LATE ENTRY ADD $50 PER CLASS
ENTRY FEES COVER BOTH SAT. / SUN. RACING AND ALL EVENTS
TRANSPONDERS REQUIRED – RENTAL FEE $25
REGISTERED RACERS CAMPING FREE
ALL OTHERS $10 PER PERSON PER NIGHT

That's still pretty cheap for a 2 day event with a good chance to take some money home!!!
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Head to Chicago, ride for 2 days, then head straight down to Daytona.... hmmmmmmm......
that's my plan....I was going to do the GNF but now I got suckered into this
so blackhawk then road trip it to daytona!!
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Visit www.mmsfest.com for all the info and rules. Preregistration is now available on line.


Website is up and going for details

Sign up fast spots are filling!

This is the first time that I know of around here where a trackday guy/gals can go and compete against another trackday guy/gal for a lap time and win money!!!

3 Novice classes: Womans only, Nov Lightweight GP, and Nov Unlimited.

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Only expert purse race is an unlimited class? Appears to be a mirror image of CCS. Bogus...

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So, what do you think, Jon? Can we go and push/pull each other around to 1:16's in Lightweight Novice? Because I don't know whether or not I can do those times without proper motivation. I know Hernan will at least be back by then...

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Only expert purse race is an unlimited class? Appears to be a mirror image of CCS. Bogus...
Just curious as to why you feel it's bogus?

I don't believe it mirrors CCS at all, it's basically a run what you brung class... you know- unlimited.

From what I'm reading it's the ONLY Expert Class. It's called the MIDWEST MOTORSPORTS FESTIVAL, karts, cars and bikes. That's a lot for a weekend of racing they can't have a ton of classes for each discipline.
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Just curious as to why you feel it's bogus?

I don't believe it mirrors CCS at all, it's basically a run what you brung class... you know- unlimited.

From what I'm reading it's the ONLY Expert Class. It's called the MIDWEST MOTORSPORTS FESTIVAL, karts, cars and bikes. That's a lot for a weekend of racing they can't have a ton of classes for each discipline.
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dude i have a very limited time frame to work with....or else I would of done a ton of classes....
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Tempted very tempted, giving it serious thought, 4 g's would be a nice take home
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it could be 6500 bucks... if you win the ultimate speed challenge also...
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Just curious as to why you feel it's bogus?

I don't believe it mirrors CCS at all, it's basically a run what you brung class... you know- unlimited.

From what I'm reading it's the ONLY Expert Class. It's called the MIDWEST MOTORSPORTS FESTIVAL, karts, cars and bikes. That's a lot for a weekend of racing they can't have a ton of classes for each discipline.
Because Unlimited GP is the only purse race in CCS now correct? That's why I typed that. I understand that there is only so much time in a day to do so many races with so many people entering.

I apologize for sounding negative. It does sound like a fun program DanO, and I'm sure it took a lot of work to put it together.

The fastest lap format sounds cool and I'd really like to come out and play but unfortunately I don't have the right machine for the battle. As an expert class racer, according to what I am reading, I'd need to bring a machine out a little bit more powerful than a SV. My fastest lap is a mid 1.16. That won't cut it against you guys. That's like bringing a knife to a gun fight. Especially condisdering the fact it's a dash for cash. I'm sure all the REALLY fast midwest guys will be in attendance.

With a big pot to be had it makes the racing a lot more interesting and all the buzzards are flying around and can smell the blood I'm sure.

If CCS would create one pot race for LW, MW and HW the grid sizes would increase even though the entry fee would be higher. And I'm not talking about bullshit race credits for awards, I'm talking cold hard cash. That's what makes this program sound so cool. CASH!

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I'd need to bring a machine out a little bit more powerful than a SV. My fastest lap is a mid 1.16. That won't cut it against you guys. That's like bringing a knife to a gun fight.
Why don't you ask Wink if you can borrow his 186hp GSXR?

Oh wait.....Maybe I should ask him.....Hey Brian want to try and make some money?
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Rob do you still have that 749 and can I borrow it?
Nope. I got a 675 now. Its faster, too.

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Why don't you ask Wink if you can borrow his 186hp GSXR?

Oh wait.....Maybe I should ask him.....Hey Brian want to try and make some money?
I'd need at least 2 weeks of straight riding and crashing that thing to go fast on it. If I took that thing out and gridded up without ever riding it I would more than likely shit directly into my pants before turn one. .

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