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post #1 of 18 (permalink) Old 08-26-2008, 02:10 PM Thread Starter
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I don't know whats more embarrassing

Thinking your going fast or looking at the pictures and noticing your Body position sucks and you look like a big ape on a sportbike.

http://www.gron4.com/2008/082008/int/suzpolice/

I had a CR bring me through BH last Wednesday and gave me some great lines and I had a blast but damn my body position sucks and have no idea where I need to start focusing.

Now this weekend I am going to Autobahn and need to work on my body position and I guess slow down my pace.

So basically I learned out of my trackday at BH. My bike is fast.. IM NOT!

If you where going to focus on one thing on your next track day what would it be? This is going to be my 5th track day so be kind

Ahh screw the kind.. be honest.. I dont want to look like a smuck on that bike anymore

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post #2 of 18 (permalink) Old 08-26-2008, 02:15 PM
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Damn i havent seen you post in years! Welcome back fred!

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post #4 of 18 (permalink) Old 08-26-2008, 02:33 PM Thread Starter
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Damn i havent seen you post in years! Welcome back fred!
Thanks.. got bit hard by the track bug so I have been out playing a bit here and there. Course getting bit towards the end of the season really sucks!

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being able to admit you suck, is the first step to going faster


go put you bike on stands and practice, start from the bottom up,
  • rotate your inside foot 45 degrees into the turn (ball of your foot on the peg)
  • Knee out
  • ass crack on the very inside edge of the seat (only one cheek should be on bike)
  • now get your torso down, outside tit on inside of tank
  • outside arm relaxed, draped across tank being very gentle on the controls
  • inside arm, drop that elbow
  • put your head down where your mirror would normally be.

Do thus correctly you will use tons less lean angle and stop dragging parts.




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post #6 of 18 (permalink) Old 08-26-2008, 02:40 PM
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Fred, is it me, or do you look like you're cramped up on that bike (ie, bike is too small) ?
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post #7 of 18 (permalink) Old 08-26-2008, 02:55 PM Thread Starter
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Fred, is it me, or do you look like you're cramped up on that bike (ie, bike is too small) ?
Honestly I feel really comfortable on the bike. I did have to set the rear sets for my height and the suspension has been set for my weight. I am guessing I look cramped since I am always sitting up on it. It looks like I am out for a Sunday morning stroll through the twisty mountian pass's

One problem I know I have is focusing on riding fast. I felt like there is so much pressure in making sure I am going fast since I am on a X AMA Bike. I get so many people saying you need to go fast.. and other comments.. its like people expecting to much.

I have only done 4 track days so I have sooooo much to learn. I have had people describe the same thing Tony mentioned to me however each time I go out I like zone out. Its me.. the bike and the next exit out of the corner.

Whats funny is I have been riding sooooooo many years on the street.. and when it comes to the track. None of that shit makes a difference.

Hell I still remember my first track day back in 2002 when Ody got everyone together and rented the BlackHawk track.. Damn I thought I was fast on my R1 and from the pictures I had from back then my body position was the same.

I guess i just need to slow myself down and focus on body position and stop worrying about going to slow for others

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do what I said, put it up on stands in the garage where no one can see you, and just practice getting into that position. it will feel forign at first, but then your body will know what it feels like and you will be able to get into that position without thinking about it so much. just like the keith code stuff, right now it costs your attention span 9 of your 10 dollars, but once it becomes natural it may cost 1.00, leaving you the rest to focas on your lines and throttle transition etc.




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Thinking your going fast or looking at the pictures and noticing your Body position sucks and you look like a big ape on a sportbike.

http://www.gron4.com/2008/082008/int/suzpolice/

I had a CR bring me through BH last Wednesday and gave me some great lines and I had a blast but damn my body position sucks and have no idea where I need to start focusing.

Now this weekend I am going to Autobahn and need to work on my body position and I guess slow down my pace.

So basically I learned out of my trackday at BH. My bike is fast.. IM NOT!

If you where going to focus on one thing on your next track day what would it be? This is going to be my 5th track day so be kind

Ahh screw the kind.. be honest.. I dont want to look like a smuck on that bike anymore
this was my 6th track day i have stuff to also work on...but that aint happening. rents made me stop riding
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post #10 of 18 (permalink) Old 08-26-2008, 03:40 PM
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post #11 of 18 (permalink) Old 08-26-2008, 04:13 PM
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so YOU were the one to take the Safety First bike to the track day...

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post #12 of 18 (permalink) Old 08-26-2008, 04:26 PM Thread Starter
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so YOU were the one to take the Safety First bike to the track day...
Well it could have been me or Eddie the Safety First Technition. He has taken out one of the bikes also. Of course he is a lot better at the track then I am. He used to be a instructor for California Superbike.

But if any of you guys is going to Autobahn this weekend and see me at the track and you have any advice.. I am all ears.. I need all the help I can get.. hehe

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But if any of you guys is going to Autobahn this weekend and see me at the track and you have any advice.. I am all ears.. I need all the help I can get.. hehe
Come find me Fred - we can ride and look bad together I will be there Saturday.

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Come find the blue and orange starry #13 bike (that's behind you in a couple shots), and the ugly white CBR 600RR - we'll do the body positioning drill with you. I don't know what group I'll be riding in, but if you want to slow down your pace to work on body position, I'd be happy to work with you.

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Well it could have been me or Eddie the Safety First Technition. He has taken out one of the bikes also. Of course he is a lot better at the track then I am. He used to be a instructor for California Superbike.

But if any of you guys is going to Autobahn this weekend and see me at the track and you have any advice.. I am all ears.. I need all the help I can get.. hehe
yep.. i know Eddie, hes good peeps in my book.

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post #16 of 18 (permalink) Old 08-26-2008, 08:07 PM Thread Starter
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I really appreciate it a lot guys.. Dean I wish I was going to be there Saturday but I have to work. Ill be there both Sunday and Monday.

Truckstop. I really appreciate it a lot. Yes I will be slowing down my pace. I am determined to learn this bike properly. I really appreciate you guys offering the help. What I have come to love about this track time is all the help being offered to everyone. Heck reminds me back when it used to be like that on the street

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post #17 of 18 (permalink) Old 08-26-2008, 08:47 PM
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Congrats on getting back on the track Fred! Sweet bike too!

Way to recognize the things you need to work on. It isn't easy to be on such a fast bike and take it back a few notches to work on the fundamentals.

See ya at Autobahn on Monday. It's my first weekend back on the track since my crash in June. I'll be working on getting back up to speed myself.

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hey fred, wats up!
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