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post #1 of 25 (permalink) Old 09-07-2008, 11:09 PM Thread Starter
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Blackhawk lap times...

Just wondering what the range of lap times are for SVs, 600s, or just in general now at Blackhawk. I've been out of the bike scene for awhile and now read this forum. I was trying to get an idea of what's going on there but not sure what's what when people post time. Heck I think almost everyone I rode with doesn't even use this forum anymore.

Anyway for trackdays events and/or racing what kind of laptimes are people doing for Novice/Intermediate/Expert...
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To win your going to need 1.14's on an SV If you can run 1.16's your top 10

The fastest guys Grasshopper is one is very happy in the 16's .
I think he said ED key is running 15's to win.
There are only a hand full of racers in the 16's in the midwest.

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im intermediate with stt and my best at bhf yesterday was a
low 26. a 26.3. consistant low 28.s most of the day. sometime
its hard to get open track without getting hung-up on slower riders.
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If you let go of the the whole #'s thing and go slow and smooth you'll find yourself going faster and faster .

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To win your going to need 1.14's on an SV If you can run 1.16's your top 10

The fastest guys Grasshopper is one is very happy in the 16's .
I think he said ED key is running 15's to win.
There are only a hand full of racers in the 16's in the midwest.
As an expert on an SV, yeah, 14's are probably necessary to win. Ed's fastest times are in the 13's on his hotter SV.

Fastest expert 600 time is now in the 1:09's. Certainly doesn't happen all the time. New lap record is 1:08 and change.

Amateur lap times are slower. I think one can win with 16's on an SV.

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Slow guy here, NESBA intermediate, only 5 track days under my belt, ran consistent 1:24s flat with not too much traffic.
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NESBA A pace is usually 1:19 to 1:12.

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Thanks for posting.

Not looking to win anything. Just trying to get an idea of how fast different bikes are people are going when they post. Makes more sense to me when guys post they did 1:XX or whatever at the race or trackday.

Most likely I'll only ride trackdays when I get another bike.....in the (s)lowest group :P When I bought my SV in 2001 and took it to Blackhawk that year bonestock I was super slowmo and doing 1:30

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NESBA A pace is usually 1:19 to 1:12.
werd. was running 14s prolly high 13s there the other week in NESBA a group. i passed 80% of the people on track at the time.

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As an expert on an SV, yeah, 14's are probably necessary to win. Ed's fastest times are in the 13's on his hotter SV.

Fastest expert 600 time is now in the 1:09's. Certainly doesn't happen all the time. New lap record is 1:08 and change.

Amateur lap times are slower. I think one can win with 16's on an SV.

Smooth, focus on set up.
14's and a damn good start. Blow the start and you'll be fighting for 2nd even with 14's. 16's will have you finish a distant 5th. Atleast that's how it was when I last raced 1.5 years ago and I finished in the 2nd-3rd position more times than I want to remember.
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Slow guy here, NESBA intermediate, only 5 track days under my belt, ran consistent 1:24s flat with not too much traffic.
Super Dave and I did a 1:24 at BHF in his van with me driving in the rain while we were smoking the funny cigarettes.
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cutting your time from 1.20's into 1.18's is a big deal .turning a 1.16 into a 1.14 may be imposable for some .

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Super Dave and I did a 1:24 at BHF in his van with me driving in the rain while we were smoking the funny cigarettes.
I'm going to need video proof of this to believe these laptime assertions!

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Super Dave and I did a 1:24 at BHF in his van with me driving in the rain while we were smoking the funny cigarettes.
I did a 1:28 on my bicycle.

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I've never been around the track once but believe me I feel every over rev and missed shift grasshopper ever has.LOL

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If it helps I'm running 16s on my 600RR with most stuff stock. My bike can still go a bit faster.

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If it helps I'm running 16s on my 600RR with most stuff stock. My bike can still go a bit faster.
if by running 16's, you mean running 1 lap at 16.9 and if by mostly stock, you mean slipper clutch and others, then yes. ha.

just givin' ya shit man, you were lookin' real good out there man!

I'm on a 2004 r6 and my best laps right now are in the 1:17 - 1:18 range. lots of time for improvement yet.
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This may be old news to some of you fellas but consider this.

The time to be saved with gearing not so concerned with end of the strate
RPM but between turns were you can save a shift by useing some over rev and then also the down shift before the exit .

Every single motion you can save will cut time.

Find that spot on the track that you up shift for just another 100 ft before the turn, then gear to avoid that wasted time .

But don't ask me I've never raced HeHeHe.

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Robbie and I did mid 1:09s at blackhawk earlier this year on R6s. Robbie did a 1:08.6 on his R1. So yea someone who knows what they are doing can go pretty good at BHF on a 1000. My ideal lap (taking all my fastest splits from that race MWSS) is a 1:08.94 so yea a 1:08 is within reach...so that's my new goal on a 600. (and I'll be riding a R6s again next year since they are pretty much unchanged for '09) and either a R1 or a GSXR1000.
At the expert level this year top 2 or 3 are in the 1:10s...
I did a 1:12.8 on Meech's stock R6 with Pilot Powers 2CTs...could of gone faster but it was in traffic at a trackday and it's not MY bike to crash...lol
I don't know what the lightweight bikes are doing but I'd guess a 14 is pretty good on a SV.

I'm on my way to the first 1:09 on a 600 chasing Robbie down.

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Don't pay attention to Dano's times. He's a freak of nature and hit times just make everyone look slow.

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