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post #1 of 21 (permalink) Old 01-02-2009, 07:42 PM Thread Starter
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track days for beginners ?'s

I've never been to track days so I'm wondering what is the process to get going? Also what gear is required ,like do you need a 1 pc suit or jacket pants combo? And what do you need to do to the bike, are street tires good enough or do you need special compound tires?
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Start here
http://www.sportbiketracktime.com/policies.html

Then go to their home page there and read their FAQ.
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thanks for the help. do you have any recommendations on gear? what is decent or what to stay away from?
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Since you have been riding 10 years, what have you got? You can depend on NESBA members to guide you in the safe direction. Possibly, even lend what you need.
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I've got helmets gloves and jackets but no suit or real racing style boots. Also do you guys wear extra spine protectors under the suits or just the built in ones? I read the nesba rule book and apex junkie website and got lots of info to absorb. I guess I just never payed much attention to the suits before and searching the internet seems pointless because every brand thinks they are the best and there is big price differences.I just wanted to get some real world advice from people that do this. I can't afford the ferrari of suits but don't want a pos that will fall apart or give less than adequate protection. Also since I never wore one I don't know what size to get. I've worn sizes 46,48,50,xl, tall in jackets so I know every manufacturer has different sizing. Your help is appreciated. Thanx.
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not to bash nesba but i found the frist track day to not have any real instruction or help to a new track rider like my self. i saw a control rider for about 2 seconds.

riding as a novice in the beginner group i felt like a goat cart going around the track with F1 cars. it may have been first time jitters or just a lack of confidence and skill but i was hoping for more instruction.

that being said i want to go back in '09 either nesba or STT.

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thanks for the help. do you have any recommendations on gear? what is decent or what to stay away from?
Boots - Must cover ankle, (racing boots recommended)
Gloves - Gauntlet style required
Helmet - Full face, SNELL or DOT approved (proper fit very important)
Leathers - 1 or 2 piece leathers acceptable, however two-piece leathers must have a 360 degree zipper around the waist. I STRONGLY recommend a one-piece suit. Should the zipper fail, you will lose a significant amount of skin, which will be lost to the asphalt. Cheap leathers start at $300, quality leathers usually start around $700 and go up to $2000. Anything above that and you’re just paying for bling.
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not to bash nesba but i found the frist track day to not have any real instruction or help to a new track rider like my self. i saw a control rider for about 2 seconds.

riding as a novice in the beginner group i felt like a goat cart going around the track with F1 cars. it may have been first time jitters or just a lack of confidence and skill but i was hoping for more instruction.

that being said i want to go back in '09 either nesba or STT.
One of the best things you can do is tag along with some more seasoned riders. Getting to know a few folks will help ease your nerves and fill in a lot of the blanks about how this track riding stuff works. When we get the schedule for 09, we will be posting up ride-shares to tracks all over the mid-west. I enjoy having a nice mix of riders in our pits.
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Suits: Alpinestar, Dainese, Spidi, Teknic, Joe Rocket, MotoGp, etc. They have some really high end suits that are thousands of dollars. They do have suits for $500-$1000 as well as suits for under $500. I have a MotoGP Titanium suit.

Gloves: Same brands as suits. Get gloves with gauntlets that are over the wrist. I have a pair of Teknic Violator gloves.

Boots: Same brands for the most part. Many wear Sidi boots. Look for something with toe sliders. New track riders tend to duck-foot and end up dragging their toes. The toe sliders saves your boot.

Backprotector: A lot of people use the Dainese hard shell one. I have the original Knox back protector. To me, this is a must. These give more protection than the built in piece protector that comes with some suits.

Trackday orgs: Look for one that provides lots of control riders. Stick with Novice group until your Control riders promote you. They will notice if your skills require you to ride with the I group. It could take a day, it could take years. But in the end, you're there to improve your skills and enjoy yourself, not to show everyone else how fast you can go.

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For suit sizing, call the guys at Sportbike Track Gear - http://stores.sportbiketrackgear.com/
Most of their staff are riders/racers and if you tell them your size and shape, they can usually give you a pretty good recommendation for which suit to buy. They promote the Hein Gerike Celtic suit pretty heavily, and everyone on the STT staff wears them. They were able to have some influence on the design, and managed to get a back protector in the suit that's substantial enough to not need a separate back protector. They've also got a bunch of video reviews of various products, and show crash damage on the Celtic.

My husband has both the $600 Celtic, and a fully custom built $1,800 kangaroo suit - the Celtic is heavy and bulky in comparison, but it's excellent protection for the price.

If you can't get a suit that fits perfectly, call Alexa at Spyder Leatherworks. She can alter almost any suit to fit almost anyone. (Although if you buy a size 40 suit and you're a size 52, you might have issues.)

As for trackday orgs - pick one that offers the best dates that are most convenient for you. Either STT or NESBA will get you going in a safe, controlled environment. I'm on STT's staff, and STT offers a really thorough and structured classroom and track environment for the Novice group. There's a lot of information covered and you're guaranteed to learn a lot.

If you don't want to deal with membership fees and can get days off during the week, the Blackhawk Farms sponsored Wednesday trackdays are a good place to start too. The staff at these days are made up of STT, PTT, and NESBA coaches and CRs, along with a few racers. Good stuff, these days are a lot of fun.

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Remember, the key is to get on the track as early as possible. If you wait until the end of the year... you'll be mad about how much time you wasted.

The only thing that limits most people from the track is available time, money or family obligations. Reality is once you get started, it is so much fun it is hard not to go whenever possible.

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Remember, the key is to get on the track as early as possible. If you wait until the end of the year... you'll be mad about how much time you wasted.

The only thing that limits most people from the track is available time, money or family obligations. Reality is once you get started, it is so much fun it is hard not to go whenever possible.
Truer words were never spoken... it is very addictive and a *ton* of fun.

Everyone here has given excellent advise. If you don't want to jump in right away, perhaps hang out with some friends (or just show up to watch) at a day to get the feel for it.... you'll find a lot of enthusiastic, friendly people willing to answer questions and share the passion....

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Come to the NESBA/CLSB Bash on Jan 31st and meet some of us. You also live pretty close to me, so if you are doing a track day that I'm going to, we can ride share if you like.

Whenever/wherever you do a track day, post up on the Roll Call thread that usually starts a week or so before the day, and you can find others from CLSB to pit near/with so that you won't feel so lost or alone. My experience is that the paddock is a pretty friendly place, even for first timers. On my first track day last July guys I didn't know lent me parts and tools to help me get on the track.

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