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is it possible

im interested in doing track days next season but dont know how much changing to the bike im going to have to do to comply with nesba or stt standards. i read that i need to tape over the lights and mirrors but my problem is i belive i run normal coolant in my bike since its bone stock but there saying i have to change to water. where i run into a wall is i want to beable to do a track day or 2, and still be able to run my bike everyday on the street and long runs. if it isnt possible im going to just keep the normal coolant and what not on and bring the thing to the drag stip
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From the NESBA FAQ

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24) Must I drain my coolant system?
Only Advanced class riders must change from antifreeze to water (see p. 23 in manual for how-to instructions).
Engine Ice and Evans Coolant are NO longer permitted!
Take off your mirrors and tape everything up. If your bike is an 07 and hasn't been ridden hard a lot, it will pass tech pretty easily. If you're unsure, I'm sure any number of people here will give it a once over at a bike night.

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water will cool more effectivly than 'coolant' anyway. ethalyn glycol has a couple of pros over straight water

-the lubricitive properties for the water pump
-lowering the freezing point
-raising the boiling point


the last 2 are fairly irrelevant. the boiling point of the water in your cooling system is actually quite high because the system is sealed and under pressure. And by the time the weather turns cold enough to freeze water you should have it swapped back out anyway.

As for lubricating the water pump a bottle of water wetter should take care of that.

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You will make friends and gain great respect if you
A) switch to water wetter
and
B)safety wire your oil filter and drain plug.

These little things can save everybody at the track hours of lost time because of a spill, and may save you from crashing in your own oil/antifreeze.

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so bassically its safe to assume i can use water with a bottle of water wetter in the bike and still ride for hours on end with no worry. because my main thing is ive never driven a vehicle with water in it. so if im on the right track on looking at next season draining my antifreeze dropping some water in with a bottle of water wetter, let it run through and flush it again for good mesasure then poor it all back in and call it good. and as for safety wiring it looks like ill be looking up how to install some saftey wiring

Everyone needs a healthy way to relax, mine Church, and two wheels, a stretch of winding road, and a pipe loud enough to give me headaches and make squirrels explode. (Fixed curtousey of PWRMAD)

Nothing is impossible the second we say ill try your already admiting you can be defeated, and the second you say i cant or its to hard youve already failed.
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water with water wetter works fine. Safer than ethylene glycol, in the sense that it's not super slick if it were to spill. Heck, I accidentally ran just distilled water for a week or 2 in the bike, and it didn't screw up the water pump

Safety wiring banjo bolts, drain plug, and filter is also a safe bet too, as 5axis said.

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You do not nead the whole bottle of watter wetter.

Read Instructions.


Water and Water wetter cool the bike better than anti-freeze.

Yes, it's fine on the street.


Consider brand new tires.


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and as for safety wiring it looks like ill be looking up how to install some saftey wiring
A very nice article on wiring with good pix

http://www.sportrider.com/tech/146_0002_hand/index.htm

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yea new tires are the first thing going on the bike the front tire is stock with about 8100 miles on it so i figured ill just get both front and rear matching set looking at eaither michelin, perreli, or bridgestone. im going to probably transfer out the coolant for water and water wetter or engine ice.

Everyone needs a healthy way to relax, mine Church, and two wheels, a stretch of winding road, and a pipe loud enough to give me headaches and make squirrels explode. (Fixed curtousey of PWRMAD)

Nothing is impossible the second we say ill try your already admiting you can be defeated, and the second you say i cant or its to hard youve already failed.
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I switch my bikes to water wetter every Spring and back to antifreeze for Winter. My R1 (street bike) runs cooler on water wetter and I like to ride 500 mile days. (Engine Ice isn't allowed by NESBA)

As for tires, run good sport tires, DO NOT DOT race tires! I ran Qualifiers and 2CT's. Until you get to "A" you won't out-ride the tire. And the 2CT's had good milage too. (About 5K for the rear)

I work in West Chicago so if you need a hand just let me know.
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Thanks bruce, i got a good amount of crap im going to be doing so i might have to take you up on that offer, i loved the qualifier i got it on the rear with about 6000 on it, so im going to replace both next season as said ill research that later but am looking at maybe a new chain and sproket i got 8000 on this and got lucky this season being the first season it was only cleand and lubed by the dealership whenever i got the oil change every 4000 miles, im not changing it because i think theres damage to it im positive theres not but just for good measure ima change it to probably a 520 +1 - 2. but that will come after new ss brake lines since everyone keeps saying SS braided lines get em. so as you can tell ill be doing some work. thank lord for tax returns

Everyone needs a healthy way to relax, mine Church, and two wheels, a stretch of winding road, and a pipe loud enough to give me headaches and make squirrels explode. (Fixed curtousey of PWRMAD)

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so bassically its safe to assume i can use water with a bottle of water wetter in the bike and still ride for hours on end with no worry. because my main thing is ive never driven a vehicle with water in it. so if im on the right track on looking at next season draining my antifreeze dropping some water in with a bottle of water wetter, let it run through and flush it again for good mesasure then poor it all back in and call it good. and as for safety wiring it looks like ill be looking up how to install some saftey wiring
We run bikes on the track for 7 hours a day with water and water wetter in them. We do this 15-20 weekends a year. No problem at all.

Good questions though......

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