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Recommendations on a Good Starter Camera

I'm looking to buy a camera as a gift for someone that used to be in to photography on an entry level and has been wanting to get back into it.

Any suggestions on a good quality camera that's not crazy expensive would be much appreciated. This will be for hobby purposes, landscape/wildlife, artistic stuff.


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All depends on the price limit. Define "crazy expensive"
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I got a Canon Rebel XSLR for xmas. Came with a case and 1 spare lens (was on special at best Buy) and the whole thing was under $500. I love it; it take great pictures of landscape, dog, and kid.
It's easy to use, but mostly because I had a Canon SD600 point and shoot, so I was used to their menu system.
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Haha...what's the difference Mike?

I think point and shoot...$500 is my limit.

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If you're looking to get a camera for someone who used to be a photographer, even amateur, then you want to get them D-SLR. A Point & Shoot would be a step backwards.

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p&s is like 90% of the little cameras out there
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a DSLR is like the link below that has a million kinds of adjustability
I have this DSLR for sale if youre interested
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If you're looking to get a camera for someone who used to be a photographer, even amateur, then you want to get them D-SLR. A Point & Shoot would be a step backwards.
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p&s is like 90% of the little cameras out there
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a DSLR is like the link below that has a million kinds of adjustability
The DSLR is basically a camera with interchangeable lens. P&S ... all others (the name says it all, point and shoot)

But there is no point buying a dslr with that budget. Maybe you should think of a different present. If you still want to get a p&s camera, I would recommend a Canon. For simple options and small size - PowerShot SD series. Don't get one with to many megapixels ! The quality will actually decrease. If size doesn't matter, get a PowerShot G10 (don't have any experience with G11, maybe it's better) I has a lot of manual settings and it is a decent p&s camera. I would say one of the best you can buy. But it's far from a good dslr with a good lens
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Ok, yeah then DSLR was what I was thinking...$500 really won't get me anything as a starter?

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Ok, yeah then DSLR was what I was thinking...$500 really won't get me anything as a starter?

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You have to realize one more thing ... DSLR is a pandora's box. The camera is the cheapest link ...
Now buying the dslr with a f.ex. canon 18-55mm in my opinion is a waste of money. You will take better pics with a good p&s.
So a cheap body is ok, but it must go with an "ok" lens.
The problem is that even if you have a high end camera with a shitty lens, your pics will be shitty
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^^I dig. I just don't know enough to know better at this point. Guide me in the right direction whilst I wait for Mike!

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I could write about it for 3 days straight Ask a question ... that would be easier
But anyway the budget is a problem here. It's like wanting a race bike with the budget of $3000
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Hmmm...but you can get a race bike for $3k

Ok, I'm looking for something (I'd like to keep it under $500) that is a decent platform to start from. This is a present for someone that hasn't done any of this for many years, and is sort of a surprise to bump them back in that direction. I'd like decent quality, and maybe something you can build on with time. If not, no big deal. Just a camera that will take nice photos with more options than a standard point and shoot (now that I know fully what that is )

If I need to go in a different direction then I'll do so. Not looking to break the bank on this.

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I disagree. He wants a "starter" camera under $500. What's wrong with a good SLR with a basic "starter" lens? This system can be built upon. Practice with the camera for a while, then add new lenses to the collection as you improve your skills.
Google "Canon EOS Rebel XS"-- you can get this for under $500. And like I said earlier, Best Buy often has this basic camera on sale with an additional lens and a case (and sometimes extra battery) for free. And I know Nikon makes a similarly priced counterpart, if this person prefers Nikon.

Yeah, it's not going to make this person an overnight Ansel Adams, but for landscape/nature stuff it is way better than a P&S. I took my P&S to Alaska and I saw bald eagles pretty close up and I came home with grainy spots and nothing printable.

And don't forget-- it's a GIFT. This person can start with a great basic camera and then add to it later on him or herself. I think it's a very nice gift.
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I agree on the rebel, but i would go for the xsi instead of xs. And yes, it is a gift, so that person can change the lens letter. But at leat I would go with the better version of the kit lens 18-55mm IS. It's still crappy but not as much. B&H which is an excellent store has a good deal. http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/produc...l_XSi_SLR.html but it is a little over your budget...
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I disagree. He wants a "starter" camera under $500. What's wrong with a good SLR with a basic "starter" lens? This system can be built upon. Practice with the camera for a while, then add new lenses to the collection as you improve your skills.
Google "Canon EOS Rebel XS"-- you can get this for under $500. And like I said earlier, Best Buy often has this basic camera on sale with an additional lens and a case (and sometimes extra battery) for free. And I know Nikon makes a similarly priced counterpart, if this person prefers Nikon.

Yeah, it's not going to make this person an overnight Ansel Adams, but for landscape/nature stuff it is way better than a P&S. I took my P&S to Alaska and I saw bald eagles pretty close up and I came home with grainy spots and nothing printable.

And don't forget-- it's a GIFT. This person can start with a great basic camera and then add to it later on him or herself. I think it's a very nice gift.


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I agree on the rebel, but i would go for the xsi instead of xs. And yes, it is a gift, so that person can change the lens letter. But at leat I would go with the better version of the kit lens 18-55mm IS. It's still crappy but not as much. B&H which is an excellent store has a good deal. http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/produc...l_XSi_SLR.html but it is a little over your budget...
What's the difference between the two? (I'm half drunk, or I'd look myself )

I did manage to read a few reviews on Amazon and Canon's website and a bunch of people have mentioned grabbing the XS over the XSi for the price difference.

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I'm half drunk too, and I have an autoX tomorrow so I have to go to sleep ... we can continue on Monday
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I'm half drunk too, and I have an autoX tomorrow so I have to go to sleep ... we can continue on Monday


NOOOOOOOOOoooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo!! I'm making the purchase tomorrow morning I think. The Bday is Monday...I'm thinking the Canon is the ticket.

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don't know what your talking about again. pst eye.


being a photo student for several years, I really enjoyed a SLR Canon 35mm. You can pick up one cheap on ebay.

Eventhough Im a canon fan, i went with Sony with my digital SLR camera.

Its a Sony (a) 200.

I think it came close to 500. battery, memory card, 2 lens special and charger. Got it at Best buy when they had a weekly sale. they do have good combo kits.

the camera is great since it lets you have all the utilities like a 35mm camera. aperature and timing control. Plus you can view the pictures after taking them.


SLR type camera is the only way to go. And if you want to be a big help, buy them atleast 2 lenses. 35-80 is good, but 80-1** really is awesome. Extra memory card too, if you got some extra cash. my opinion, i don't think its worth getting a photo printer. cheaper getting it done at the store.
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You should be able to find a Nikon D40/D40x/D60 model somewhere for under $500. Search the photographers forum for 'D40' as I've posted many photos and opinions on that model.

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You can pick up a D3000 for $500 direct from Nikon (probably too late though if you need gift for tomorrow). The D3000 is the latest version of the 40/40x/60 range I mentioned above.

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don't know what your talking about again. pst eye.
Sounds like someone who doesn't know a good shot when they see one. The camera itself is but only one piece to the puzzle of a 'good shot'.

I've had fun watching many people spend tens of thousands of dollars over the years buying 'better' camera after 'better camera' because they don't like the shots their current 'camera to end all cameras' take...

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But anyway the budget is a problem here. It's like wanting a race bike with the budget of $3000
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The camera doesn't make the photographer... their own eye does.
You can get a great race bike for $20k, but that doesn't make you a better rider.

Are you picking up what I'm putting down?

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woah, guys, stay on focus. you dont need to sell eachother on the obvious on what makes a photographer. If you really need to discuss that then also discuss that the sky is blue while your at it.


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Either a Canon or a Nikon will be a wonderful gift for someone without one. Both have their snob followings but for someone without either, then either is a nice gift.

I am a nikon snob, so my recommendations fall in that direction. The 18-55 kit lens is a great lens to include, it goes wide and gives a bit of zoom so it has some flexibility. As they desire down the line they can purchase additional lens's as needed whether they want a zoom or a prime depending on what they shoot, until that point the kit lens will serve them well.

Dont forget to pick up a memory card (4gb+) and if there is anyone else last minute that needs to get a gift see if they can purchase a bag for them.

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