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Nikon D5000 vs D90

Can someone tell me what the big difference is between these two cameras?

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what a coincidence! i just got the D5000 today. i originally bought the D3000, but decided to exchange it in favor of faster speeds of the 5000.

i'm no expert, but from what i've read, the D5000 has the same sensors, and is built off the model of the D90. the D90 has more bells and whistles by way of extra controls. however, the D5000 supposedly has similar image quality, is smaller, weighs less, and has a much better price. kind of a "D90-light."

again, i've never shot a D90, so i can't say first hand. i'm just going off of research. i took a bunch of pics today with the D5000 and i'm *very* pleased with the results.

this guy has a bunch of seemingly unbiased reviews:
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D90 has motor build in the body (So it means you can buy cheaper lenses and motor in camera will be doing autofocusing ) and D90 has better IQ. This is semi-pro more advanced camera.

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D5000 (like D40 & D60) has no motor and you need motorized
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I have the d5000, and it is a great camera, I am just confused on the big difference between the two. I was told that the D90 will auto focus or something like that with cheaper lenses. I am not sure if that is correct and that is what I want to find out. I am debating on buying better lenses, or just get a new camera so I can get cheaper lenses. Sorry if this is confusing

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Just bought a used D90 today. There are some really good comparisons of those 2 cameras + the rebel line online. Google it. You will find much more specific answers there. I love the D90 and it can be had pretty cheap new at BH.
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I have the d5000, and it is a great camera, I am just confused on the big difference between the two. I was told that the D90 will auto focus or something like that with cheaper lenses. I am not sure if that is correct and that is what I want to find out. I am debating on buying better lenses, or just get a new camera so I can get cheaper lenses. Sorry if this is confusing
D90 doesnt require AF-S class of lenses to auto focus where the D40/60/3000/5000 do. Can you use non AF-S lenses on these cameras? Yes, but you will have to manual focus. D90 has a 2nd thumb wheel where the 5000 doesnt. Also if you up to a D300 or D700, the D90 batteries will work in those also. 5000 uses different batteries.

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Depending on what you ultimately want to capture, neither may be the better choice; especially if you want a still from a fast moving scene. I have someone with the D700 who constantly asks me to comb my 1080/60P video for a better shot (frame) of action shots that he missed.

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Your friend must not know how to use that camera if he can't get a good action shot with a d700. No offense, but you have to know how to use the gear. A D40 will take awesome action shots in the right hands.
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Your friend must not know how to use that camera if he can't get a good action shot with a d700. No offense, but you have to know how to use the gear. A D40 will take awesome action shots in the right hands.
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thats pretty crazy he isnt landing the shots. either that or he has bad timing.

I am too curious, what settings is he using arch?

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your friend must not know how to use that camera if he can't get a good action shot with a d700. No offense, but you have to know how to use the gear. A d40 will take awesome action shots in the right hands.
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A D40 will take awesome action shots...
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The D90 is a upgrade of the D80 body where as the D5000 is born from the original D40 entry-level body. The single biggest difference is the D5000 does not have an internal focusing motor so auto focus will only operate with AF-S lenses which contain built-in focusing motors. The D90 will autofocus any AF lens which will mount to the body.

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Maybe he doesn't know you are supposed to pan with the subject and shoot. Most wouldn't expect to get a side shot of anything moving at speed without moving the camera some.
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Bitchin' shot Shadrach, what lens is that? Is the photo cropped (I would imagine it has to be)?
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70-300 VR, no crop. I was shooting through a gap in the fence, that's what is causing the dark blur in the corner.

Panning with that lens up-close let me shoot right through the fencing and it pretty much is invisibile in the photo:

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Your friend must not know how to use that camera if he can't get a good action shot with a d700. No offense, but you have to know how to use the gear. A D40 will take awesome action shots in the right hands.
Those right hands need to know the small fraction of a second that a particular move is at it's peak perfection. A tenth of a second prior or after makes the shot complete shit because it's wrong.

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Those right hands need to know the small fraction of a second that a particular move is at it's peak perfection. A tenth of a second prior or after makes the shot complete shit because it's wrong.
Hmmmmm.... OK???
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Shadrach. Sweet, I got that lens as part of the deal (all used) when I bought my D90, didn't think it had quite enough range for decent track use. I guess I am wrong. I look forward to using it now!! It's funny, I saw a bunch of peeps shooting through the fence like that and was wondering how those pics were turning out. Now I know (I'm sure not all turned out) but that's pretty cool.
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Hmmmmm.... OK???
It was a qualified statement about depending on what one is shooting and when you have 4+ hours of continuous recording material, you can not burst-shot all 4+ hours on an SLR and there are some things you *WILL* miss when/if the recording material is relevant all 4+ hours... For example, 26 dancers in a layered routine where each peals off the exit of the former to perform a specific combination and to capture it at its peak perfection for all 26 dancers where the split second moment counts...

Sorry if you've never encountered such a condition and could not grasp the idea.

It was not stated as 'better' in all occasions, it was qualified as depending on what one is shooting.

8-10 shots per second versus 60 is a HUGE difference when timing of the material matters; especially when it means the difference between getting paid or not (you DID catch it, or you DID NOT).

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So you're saying no camera would do. In which case you aren't helping this thread at all.
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So you're saying no camera would do. In which case you aren't helping this thread at all.
Please don't be an ass. I qualified the conditions for what I am saying. If it fits, consider a different capturing device. If it does not fit for what I am saying, go with the SLRs.

I merely pointed out there exists conditions, based on what one wants to capture where NEITHER works well, and there exist better, such as the Panasonic TM700 series, for example.

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Can someone tell me what the big difference is between these two cameras?
See above for the original topic of the thread.

I'm being an ass?

This guy wants an opinion on 2 cameras. He is obviously interested in buying a DSLR camera.

You are running on about a bunch of stuff that has nothing to do with an opinion on DSLR cameras, other than to suggest that a D700 is not sufficient for taking photos of action. Every photographer with a brain would tell you that if a D700 can't do the job, it probably can't be done, in an SLR.

I understand your opinion, and I respect it, but look at what you're implying. I can also see the value in what you have, but again, he is looking for opinions on a D5000 vs a D90, not those plus every other form of digital capture out there.

I am new to my D90, I would guess that you could probably do better with what you have and I am fine with that. I don't need to believe I am the best out there and don't pretend to be.

Once again though, you are wasting space on someone else's thread for what reason I don't know other than you seem to be hellbent on proving me wrong. A more constructive means would be to post up to him what exactly "1080/60P video" means and how to effectively use it, instead of saying that a DSLR can't / may not do it.

Lastly I don't appreciate being called an ass for pointing it all of this out. You have a further problem with me, then PM me, instead of further derailing this thread.
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thanks for all the info guys, I already have the D5000, I was just debating on switching to the D90 to use cheaper lenses or not. I will probably just stick with the D5000 for now and learn, then upgrade after I get some experience using the DSLR.

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See above for the original topic of the thread.

I'm being an ass?

This guy wants an opinion on 2 cameras. He is obviously interested in buying a DSLR camera.

You are running on about a bunch of stuff that has nothing to do with an opinion on DSLR cameras, other than to suggest that a D700 is not sufficient for taking photos of action. Every photographer with a brain would tell you that if a D700 can't do the job, it probably can't be done, in an SLR.

I understand your opinion, and I respect it, but look at what you're implying. I can also see the value in what you have, but again, he is looking for opinions on a D5000 vs a D90, not those plus every other form of digital capture out there.

I am new to my D90, I would guess that you could probably do better with what you have and I am fine with that. I don't need to believe I am the best out there and don't pretend to be.

Once again though, you are wasting space on someone else's thread for what reason I don't know other than you seem to be hellbent on proving me wrong. A more constructive means would be to post up to him what exactly "1080/60P video" means and how to effectively use it, instead of saying that a DSLR can't / may not do it.

Lastly I don't appreciate being called an ass for pointing it all of this out. You have a further problem with me, then PM me, instead of further derailing this thread.
I threw out what I did because a professional I know who has been trying for years to use a DSLR to capture dance performances and turn them into works of art via a potassium bichromate process NEVER EVEN THOUGHT of using the frames from HD video and they end up working better for him. He kept thinking he needed a 'better DLSR' for these types of things when in reality, he needed to entirely switch gears for his capture device.

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thanks for all the info guys, I already have the D5000, I was just debating on switching to the D90 to use cheaper lenses or not. I will probably just stick with the D5000 for now and learn, then upgrade after I get some experience using the DSLR.
In my opinion the D5000 is a great camera too and probably all you will need for a while. I couldn't see buying anything more expensive than the D90 until I (if ever) go to a full frame. The nice thing about the Nikon's is you can always re-use your lenses when you upgrade the Body.
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what a coincidence! i just got the D5000 today. i originally bought the D3000, but decided to exchange it in favor of faster speeds of the 5000.

i'm no expert, but from what i've read, the D5000 has the same sensors, and is built off the model of the D90. the D90 has more bells and whistles by way of extra controls. however, the D5000 supposedly has similar image quality, is smaller, weighs less, and has a much better price. kind of a "D90-light."

again, i've never shot a D90, so i can't say first hand. i'm just going off of research. i took a bunch of pics today with the D5000 and i'm *very* pleased with the results.

this guy has a bunch of seemingly unbiased reviews:
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