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Back to Photography - need Canon gear

So, after trading my Canon 40D and Sigma EX 18-50 f/2.8 for a trackbike last year, I am back to photography with new to me Canon 50D and 28-135 IS USM lens.

Lens is OK and will work for now, until I get something better - I am looking at either Canon 17-40 f/2.8 L or Tamron 17-50 f/2.8 LD II IF or Sigma EX 18-50 f/2.8 DC MACRO. In addition I will get Sigma EX 70-200 f/2.8 DG HSM MACRO for longer shots.

I am also shopping for a decent bag, like Lowepro slingshot 300 or something comparable, good quality UV and circular polarizer filters in 67 and 72 mm, Canon 430EX or 580EX speedlites


anyone has anything to sell to a returning hobbyist?
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I have lowerpro slingshot 200. Ok for walkaround but after whole day of caring gear ur arm will hurt. It fits 5dM2 w/24-105, 50mm, 580 flash and there is a room for
Standing 70-200.
Why do u need such a wodę angle lens?
To walk around i would sugest 24-70 2.8
and get some tamron Macro 90mm and u golden.

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How much you want for it?
I was told the set up was worth $5k , but shoot me an offer .

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anyone has anything to sell to a returning hobbyist?
I've got a buddy selling some stuff, I'll ask him.

I love cameras and photography but ... wow thats a lot of change: http://www.digitalrev.com/en/canon-e...l-pr-8307.html
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So, after trading my Canon 40D and Sigma EX 18-50 f/2.8 for a trackbike last year, I am back to photography with new to me Canon 50D and 28-135 IS USM lens.

Lens is OK and will work for now, until I get something better - I am looking at either Canon 17-40 f/2.8 L or Tamron 17-50 f/2.8 LD II IF or Sigma EX 18-50 f/2.8 DC MACRO. In addition I will get Sigma EX 70-200 f/2.8 DG HSM MACRO for longer shots.

I am also shopping for a decent bag, like Lowepro slingshot 300 or something comparable, good quality UV and circular polarizer filters in 67 and 72 mm, Canon 430EX or 580EX speedlites


anyone has anything to sell to a returning hobbyist?

No such thing as a 17-40 f2.8 L but they do make a 17-40 f4.0 L. Though, f4.0 is sooooo slow that I just can't suggest going that route.

My choice from your list given that you're stuck with a crop body only is either the sigma or tamron 17/18-50 f2.8 lenses. But, you'll have to sell that when you go FF....

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I will not go FF - have no need for this, and 4.0 is slow, though IQ is better at 4.0 than at 2.8 on pertty much every lens.

Shopping for Sigma or tamron right now

BTW, anyone is close to UIC campus? I need help - I have a guy who sells Sigma EX 24-70 f/2.8 but he is at UIC campus during the day - can some one pick it up for me?

I will provide funds and take the lens from your hands in the evenings before and after
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I was told the set up was worth $5k , but shoot me an offer .
1Ds Mk II is too much of camera to everyone except a paid professional - it requires external flash, has built in grip and lenses for FF mount are expensive

http://www.amazon.com/Canon-Mark-16-.../dp/B00064O8Z8
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IQ doesn't mean anything if you didn't have a fast enough lens to get the shot.

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IQ doesn't mean anything if you didn't have a fast enough lens to get the shot.
True, I have been in this situations before, though with IS lens, it's alleviated somewhat.
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For crop sensor I would also recommend 18-55IS

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1Ds Mk II is too much of camera to everyone except a paid professional - it requires external flash, has built in grip and lenses for FF mount are expensive

http://www.amazon.com/Canon-Mark-16-.../dp/B00064O8Z8
Thats why I dont use it, too much .

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True, I have been in this situations before, though with IS lens, it's alleviated somewhat.
True, as long as your subject isn't moving.

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This may be too rich for your blood, but I am selling a few items on photography-on-the.net/forums.

1D MarkII - $825 for local transation
http://photography-on-the.net/forum/...d.php?t=882618

16-35 f/2.8L - $825 for local transaction
http://photography-on-the.net/forum/...d.php?t=882613

I'm am also selling my Lowepro Slingshot 200AW bag for around $40 if ur interested.
But to be honest, I don't like that bag much. Like c2000 stated, for short trips, it's ok, but when you're lugging around gear on one shoulder all day, it isn't comfortable. Depending on how much gear you have/want to get, I'd suggest the crumpler 5MDH shoulder bag or if you have more gear, the flipside 300. I'm using the flipside right now, and it's one helluva bag.

I don't know what your budget is, so it's hard to recommend things to look out for, but I think you are along the right path with a 50D Tamron 17-50 f/2.8 combo. The AF is fast and accurate (although a bit loud, if you care about that) and the IQ it provides is very good. It's the best bang for your buck you can have on a crop body.
Now if you want a telephoto to shoot things at track days and such, I'd suggest getting the 70-200F4L. The Sigma f/2.8 is good, but the AF isn't fast enough to track fast things. The EF 70-200F4L is about $500 used, super sharp images, colors and contrast are good, and best of all, the AF is amazingly fast and accurate. Plus, track days are usually during the day so you have more than enough available light to work with the f/4. You can choose the IS ($900 used), f/2.8 ($950 used), f/2.8 IS ($1.6k used), or f2.8 IS mk2 ($2.5k) versions, but it's obviously going to cost you more.

If you want deals, I'd join the POTN (photography on the net) forums. I've bought & sold close to $3k's worth on there and never ran into a problem. Great community to learn about photography, too!

btw, my gear list:
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Check also www.keh.com and www.fredmiranda.com
for good deal on used stuff, or before u buy anything check calumetphoto for rental. For a memorial weekend I rented 100mm macro and was only 25$.

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I hate to try and cut off a local deal but in the interest of the OP...

I've got a 16-35mm 2.8 and a couple crop camera's and I do not think I would invest in that lens if you do not intend to go FF or at least 1.3 crop. The 17/18-50mm lenses are far less expensive, noticeably longer at 50mm and produce arguably about the same IQ. So, you get more for less, which is always very nice.

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Peter, oh yeah I forgot about renting, good point! (It would be awesome to try out the 300, 400, or 600L's. haha)

Troy, no prob. I wasn't expecting to sell those to the OP anyways. They seem more than what the OP is looking for. I completely agree with you, the 50D with Tamron 17-50 f2.8 will get you much more bang for your buck.
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Calumet in oak broak virtually has no prime lenses.
Downtown calumet is more loaded.
I had 18-55 and 55-200 on my nikons and they where perfect combo.
Try not to overlap to much.

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I rented before, I rented some ultra wide angle lenses for my trips, and I never complained about AF speed on Sigma 70-200 - here are some pics I took with it last year






and this one was taken with this lens and 1.4x converter

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Calumet in oak broak virtually has no prime lenses.
Downtown calumet is more loaded.
I had 18-55 and 55-200 on my nikons and they where perfect combo.
Try not to overlap to much.
dont' know about Nikon versions, but 18-55 IS is mediocre lens and 55-200 is outright awful
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I hate to try and cut off a local deal but in the interest of the OP...

I've got a 16-35mm 2.8 and a couple crop camera's and I do not think I would invest in that lens if you do not intend to go FF or at least 1.3 crop. The 17/18-50mm lenses are far less expensive, noticeably longer at 50mm and produce arguably about the same IQ. So, you get more for less, which is always very nice.
16-35 would be too limiting for me on 1.6 crop, agreed
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avout bags - I had both Slingshot 200AW and 300AW and like 300AW a lot - no need to take it off if you want to change the lens or get the flash out, if you move it upfront - you can rest your elbows on it for more stability, and it was roomy enough

you can use the waist strap to take the weight off your shoulder as well

200AW was too small to carry a camera, 2 lenses, flash and bunch of misc stuff like chargers and batteries
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Have you picked up the grip yet?

If not I would strongly suggest getting the older non-N BG-E2 because the internal gears in the N version easily stripe out. Mine did this after about 3x putting the grip on and off, after which I discovered it's a very common issue.

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the grip will be resold - I don't need it, just picked it up with the camera and will use to recoup some costs

I will also sell 28-135 IS lens
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cool, you ended up getting pretty much exactly what I suggested
Did you get a bag yet? Check out the flipside 300 reviews.
I use it right now and I have the 5D MarkII gripped, 16-35L, Sigma 50mm f/1.4, 24-70L, 70-200F4L, and 580EXII, with some space for my cybersyncs, filters, extra batteries, etc. and admittedly, it's a bit snug, but still fits everything comfortably and it hold a lot more than it looks.
The best part is, when you use the waist strap, you can slide it over and take stuff in and out of the bag and change lenses and use the bag as a table. It looks kinda dorky, but it works extremely well. The slingshots promotes 'quick access' without having to take the bag off, but you can't really access 100% of the bag, and it doesn't feel safe while doing it either.

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I looked at flipside, but decided to go with tamrac velocity 9x - I like that I can get my gear and change lenses without taking the bag off.

Actually, I might be selling 70-200 F/4.0 L - Last night I picked up mint Sigma EX 70-200 F/2.8 II MACRO HSM that was factory calibrated to address the known front-focus issue for unbelievable price.

I haven't decided yet which one to keep, will need to set up a test shoot somethime soon
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Post some samples so we can compare 70-200 sigma vs canon.
I'm on the market for telephoto lens just dont know what to pick.

I also have a dilemma - I don't know which one to get: 135mm 2.0 or 100mm 2.8 macro.

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