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1965 Hells Angels

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(CNN) -- America loves its outlaws, but few of us actually dare to live the lifestyle. Veteran LIFE photographer Bill Ray got about as close as anyone, riding along with a notorious biker gang.
In 1965, the Hells Angels were little known outside the American West. Ray spent several weeks in Southern California, photographing and traveling with the San Bernardino chapter of a gang that would soon become notorious for its hedonistic, lawless swagger.

The Hells Angels are now a worldwide phenomenon -- incorporated, licensed and branded. But the gang Ray traveled with, two years before the Summer of Love and four years before the deadly violence at a Rolling Stones concert at Altamont speedway made them infamous, truly lived on the fringes of society.
In a culture where the Beach Boys and the Beatles fought a squeaky-clean battle for the hearts and minds of America, the Hells Angels were, in the words of Hunter S. Thompson, a "burst of dirty thunder" that shocked folks wherever they went.
It was a time when the roar of stripped-down Harleys and the sight of long-haired bikers on the freeway -- or riding into a sleepy town -- was still new, alien, and for the average law-abiding citizen, more than a little frightening.
Forty-five years after the story and photos were rejected by a LIFE managing editor, they still have some of that shock value, a reminder that outlaws still have a secret sweet spot in the American psyche.
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Its ironic how we glorify biker gangs and mobsters yet we are so disgusted with gangbangers.

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Its ironic how we glorify biker gangs and mobsters yet we are so disgusted with gangbangers.
mobsters and biker gangs seem to have a core set of values, i dont actually see that in gangbangers.

whens the last time time a biker gang or mobster killed some innocent girl to get into a club

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mobsters and biker gangs seem to have a core set of values, i dont actually see that in gangbangers.

whens the last time time a biker gang or mobster killed some innocent girl to get into a club
i'm not sayin we should glorify gangbangers either. i'm just sayin. i'm surprised a gangbanger would kill a girl to get into a club when he'd probably want to stick it in her pooper.

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Its ironic how we glorify biker gangs and mobsters yet we are so disgusted with gangbangers.
We only glorify the romantic aspect that is depicted in movies and on TV. The Sons of Anarchy and Sopranos are not real and because they are characters that we are made to care about with seemingly redeeming quality they get a following but, they are not real. They are sympathetic bad guys that will eventually die by the sword or face justice...poetic or otherwise. The real biker gangs and gangsters are feared and respected because of that fear...that's not glorification.
Gang bangers are thugs with no sense and no dignity. To them there is no tomorrow and if they take your tomorrow away from you they not only don't care they don't even think about it. They are feared too, but because death and mayhem are wholesale to them the respect of fear is not afforded them.
The Hell's Angels of 1965 were a cultural phenomenon and considered part of the growing counter culture of the time. Counter culture/sub culture was a big story back then... Hell, my high school term paper was about American sub culture and titled "The Motorcycle Outlaw in America". I actually interviewed a deputy Attorney General of california by phone for research.

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If you dig the old photos check this out:
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A lot more images that are closer to home for Chicago people.



The rest of the blog is pretty cool too.

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what do you notice in this pic ?

i noticed a cut turpintine can used as a oil drain or to clean parts

i want to drink, but only to kill a certain few brain cells and i don't care how many i have to take out to get to them.
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With the parts strune all over the ground, it will be a challenge to put that bike back together.

Added: Is that a right side shift lever?

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With the parts strune all over the ground, it will be a challenge to put that bike back together.
I doubt he had a problem. There are 3 triumphs or bsa's in the picture. (My first guess is Triumphs I don't know brit bikes that well.) I bet that dude knows those bikes like the back of his hand. That was back when if you rode a motorcycle you knew how to work on it and tune it, repair it or had a close friend who could.

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With the parts strune all over the ground, it will be a challenge to put that bike back together.

Added: Is that a right side shift lever?
Many of the Brit bikes were right hand shift. As a matter of fact, the first Harley Sportsters were too as they were produced as direct competition for the Triumphs, BSA and Nortons.

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I doubt he had a problem. There are 3 triumphs or bsa's in the picture. (My first guess is Triumphs I don't know brit bikes that well.) I bet that dude knows those bikes like the back of his hand. That was back when if you rode a motorcycle you knew how to work on it and tune it, repair it or had a close friend who could.
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i noticed a cut turpintine can used as a oil drain or to clean parts
a pack of cigarettes in his shirt procket.

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ALL non Japanese motorcycles were right side shift before the U.S. government mandated standardized controls in 1973. They went with left shift/right brake because Jap bikes were outselling HD and the Brits by then.
The guy working on the Triumphs (all the bikes in the picture are Triumphs) is Danny Lyon, the author and photographer of the "Bikeriders" book. He was a member of the old Chicago Outlaws and he was an expert on Triumphs. You will notice that in the book MANY Outlaws rode non HD bikes...there's even a photo of an Ohio Outlaw on a BMW in the book.
Back in that era motorcycle people from the midsection of the country were called "Bikeriders"..."Biker" is a west coast term and became universal in the early '70's with the proliferation of all the biker flicks.
I was junior high age and in high school when the photos and stories in that book were compliled and put together and over the years I have become friends with a few in the book...others are long gone. If you get a chance to check it out it's an interesting glimpse into the motorcycle scene in Chicago in the mid '60's...it was much less divided back in those days.

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ALL non Japanese motorcycles were right side shift before the U.S. government mandated standardized controls in 1973.
Not completely true. Bigtwin hds were left foot (and prior to that left hand) shift.

Ive been meaning to pick Bikeriders up. I definitely love finding out more about our area's history, people tend to forget how big motorcycle culture is in the midwest and especially Chicago. Thanks for the info.

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Not completely true. Bigtwin hds were left foot (and prior to that left hand) shift...
That is true...thanks for reminding me. When foot shift was popularized by the influx of Brit bkes immediately after the war the mousetrap conversions were on the left and the factory followed suit...but it was on the right on all the other models...the K..the Sportster...the lightweights both American made and Italian..............................It's a trip riding a modern bike one day and a vintage Brit the next... sometimes I try to upshift with the brake and downshift when I want to use the back brake...I usually remember, but sometimes I don't.
Some of the pictures in the Bikeriders book are of some legendary guys...John Goodpastor is in his 80's today and still runs his shop with his son in Hobart Indiana. John and his son Bob and now his Grandson Wes are big names in AHRMA...In the photo of Santa Fe Speedway, # 97 P is Ray Smith on his Sportster TT bike. Ray was a legendary local racer and former member of a motorcycle club that is infamous today...he once ran Chicago Cycle Center when it was on Western and was owned by Barry Brown. When the "King" moved in Ray moved over to Chicago BMW and is now retired. You should hear some of the stories he tells of non sanctioed road races from Harlem & Higgins out to Busse woods in the days before the Kennedy and the tollway. Higgins (IL72) was an unmarked blacktop and the whole area was forest preserve then...O'Hare was a pimple airstrip in an orchard at the time and Midway was Chicago's main airport into the early '60's!
The Scrambles track in McHenry was THE place where all aspiring racers from Chicagoland went in the early to mid '60's to hone their skills and gain the experience and points needed to obtain an AMA pro license...back in those days, ALL racing was dirt oriented first...road racing was an occasional thing done less than a half dozen times a year.
Get the book...it's worth it. I know for sure you can get it from Whitehorse Press...If you ever run across an original from 1968...BUY IT! It is a highly prized collectors item and I've seen them priced as high as $450.00 average to $650.00 mint.

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Hey is that gearhead ,looks like he stopped off for some coffe after Barber
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