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post #1 of 23 (permalink) Old 12-26-2010, 12:40 PM Thread Starter
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Nikon D3100 or ???

I'm looking for my first DSLR. The catch is that it has to be from Best Buy (I have a $175 gift card). I want a zoom lens, and they have a package with a 70-300 VR lens for $1089. I'd like to spend around $900-$1000 (including zoom lens), but this lens seems worth it. Opinions? Alternatives?

I used to use a manual SLR back in the day, so I'm not totally new to how they work. The guide feature on the Nikon was a plus for me though, I'm not going to pretend like I'm a pro :P I plan to use it for general shooting. Probably some outdoor/nature type shots. And of course, I want to shoot some trackside photos, that would be the bulk of the zoom lens use. The Canon T2i or T1i were close in price, but the Nikon seemed easier to use for me.

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post #2 of 23 (permalink) Old 12-26-2010, 01:04 PM
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Sounds like an ok deal. It will work well for track days. Gonna need something for everyday shots. Cheap route is the 18-55 but the 18-200 would be better.
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Budget doesn't allow for a third lens, so I would stick with the included 18-55. Maybe down the road I'd get something better, but that's probably a year out at least.

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If it includes the 18-55 then go for it.
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fyi the d3100 doesnt have the auto focus motor in the body
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Good to know, but both lenses in the package have the af motor built in.

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I'd buy a used body, D90 maybe and spend the money on a lens from BB.
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Before you make the move check the prices on the "better" lenses.
Nikon's lenses are more expansive and there is less to choose.
You should check also T2i or older T1i or 60D

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T2i bundle is $1000 at bestbuy.com
http://www.bestbuy.com/site/Canon+EO...=t2i&lp=3&cp=1
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I couldn't find much different between the T2i and D3100. That package seems to be pretty much the same lens combo as the Nikon. Does one do something better than the other?

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It really just doesn't matter anymore because they are so close in specs and price that there is no real winner. Just get one and have fun.
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What I ment to say there is more of a choice in Canon lens line up for less $$$ than in Nikon brand. If it comes to the camera: Nikon, Canon, Sony Pentax etc. doesn't matter, all of them have positive and negative things. I had Canon than Nikons, now I have Canon again and there are some things I liked in Nikon brand, and there are some nice things in Canon's. All of it it's a personal preference.


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Just be gentle with that canon, you dont want to shake it too hard or bump it while you put it in your case :P

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I have a Nikon 70-300VR lens for sale if you want to save a few $$.

Buy yourself a good Nikon Body, and I'll sell you the lens for less than it would cost even in the kit. It might even leave you enough money left over for another lens.

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I have a Nikon 70-300VR lens for sale if you want to save a few $$.

Buy yourself a good Nikon Body, and I'll sell you the lens for less than it would cost even in the kit. It might even leave you enough money left over for another lens.
If you can beat the package price, I'd be glad to buy it from you PM me with a price. I'd probably still stick with the D3100, since it includes an 18-55 lens for 7 hundo.

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What would I lose going from a 70-300 to a 70-200? And don't say 100mm! I've never used a telephoto lens, so I'm not sure what kind of depth I'm giving up. BB has a package with what seems like the same lens, just 70-200 for $200 less.

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What would I lose going from a 70-300 to a 70-200? And don't say 100mm! I've never used a telephoto lens, so I'm not sure what kind of depth I'm giving up. BB has a package with what seems like the same lens, just 70-200 for $200 less.
Sure you dont mean 55-200? 70-200's usually are very $$$.

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You are correct, I mis-read the ad. So it's this 55-200 or this 70-300

I plan to use it for trackside photos and possibly some outdoor shots. The specs look pretty similar though. I'd spend an extra $150 if I got the 70-300. While I see that the 70-300 is a better deal, what would I gain by using that lens?

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The 70-300 has the obvious advantage of being 100mm longer, which is a considerable amount going from 200mm. It also is simply a better constructed lens, supports full frame camera's and DX, and holds a much better resale value. Also, the 70-300 should have a faster max aperture at focal lengths less than 200mm when comparing the two. The 55-200 is simply a longer kit lens for DX crop body cameras only and will not hold as much resale.

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FX - 70-300

DX - http://www.bestbuy.com/site/Nikon+-+...-200&cp=1&lp=3

then you can ditch the second lens and have a single walkaround lens. you need extra zoom you can snag a TC and then + 1.5x to whatever lens.



actually that reminds me, the 70-300FX is actually going to perform at, 105-450mm
because its on a DX body and the 1.5x crop
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I'd like to keep it under $1000, and a body plus the DX lens will be out of my price range :/

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Just get the package you can afford now. You can always get another lens later on. I've used my 80-200 at the track with good results. If I need farther reach, I toss my 1.7x TC on it. But usually at BHF 200 will work. RA, well theres another story.

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