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post #1 of 54 (permalink) Old 02-10-2011, 03:47 AM Thread Starter
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I just bought a used camera kit and I am seriously excited. I have been wanting to get into photography for a long time but wasn't willing to to tiptoe into it. I finally found a deal at a time I had spare cash. Win, win.

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AF-S Nikkor 18-135mm 1:3.5-5.6G ED DX kit lens
AF-S Nikkor 55-200mm 1:4.5-5.6G ED VR DX
AF-S Nikkor 70-300mm 1:4.5-5.6G ED VR
AF-S Nikkor 35mm 1:1.8G DX
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Tristar UV 52mm
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Tristar circular polarizer 52mm
Sunpak circular polarizer 67mm
Kenko DUTO softens the edges 52mm
Kenko 6 point star 52mm
Kenko Skylight 1B 52mm
Kenko PO-0 yellow-green 52mm
Hoya FL-DAY 52mm

Field guide for the D-80
Tamrac system 6 bag
Wireless shutter release
Air blower bulb


Then I got to complete my setup.
Vanguard Elite L-32 Carbon tripod
Vanguard SBH-250 Ball head
Nikon SB-600 speedlight

Thats what I have for now. I am wanting more SD cards, Photo editing software that does RAW (I'm thinking Lightroom), more batteries, car charger, macro, fisheye and maybe a wider angle lens. Also I am planing to pickup a desktop computer instead of using this laptop. Another thing that I need to know about is the best way to set up a Pellican case that I can bolt to the back of the bike (gravel and dirt roads will be ridden in the rain).

I am trying to think things through, but if I have forgot anything please tell me.

My main interest is landscape, but some people or product pics will happen too.

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How much computer do I need for photo editing, video streaming and posting on CLSB? I know that I want a good monitor. Can I get something good for this for under $800?

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For a wide angle, Tokina's 12-24 F/4 is great. Around $500ish. Some say its just like Nikon's but at half price.


Oh and for editing, you cant go wrong with Paint Shop Pro. Does raw, can use photoshop plugins and is under $100

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Under a hundred is way better than the 200 for lightroom. I will look into those. Thanks

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Rob has some very solid suggestions.

Since I have a FF body, I've never had a chance to try the Tokinas, but I heard they were built like a tank and the IQ you get from them is stellar.
As for post production software, I use Lighroom2. It's a really good program and very easy to use as well. If you can get a student version, it's less than $100 for the newer and better LR3.

For photo editing, you don't need a top notch computer. a $500 desktop should be more than enough to give you the processing power to edit photos. I'm thinking of upgrading my monitor to an IPS screen as well. There's some e-IPS 22.5" Dell screens that pop up on Slickdeals for $175ish and $420ish for the 27" s-IPS screens. They are supposed to be color calibrated and basically awesome for photo editing.

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I noticed that you have some overlap with your lenses.

Why do you still have your 55-200? Should the combo between 18-135mm and your 70-300mm do the trick?

And you stated that you normally take landscapes, but do you have any specific things?
I like to take photos of many different things, but mainly focus on nature and portraits.
You can tell by my gear because I have the Tamron 17-35 for UWA landscapes, 35L & 135L for portraits, and some off camera flash and light modifying equipment.

I'm just saying because I went through a period of buying tons of equipment that I really didn't need and I eventually resold them all and I'm realy happy with what I currently own. G.A.S. (Gear Aquisition Syndrome) can be a scary thing!

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I bought all except for the tripod and speedlight from a friend that needed money. He was going to sell it to a camera store for 1k so I gave him the money instead. Like you said, there is plenty of overlap. I dont like the 18-135 (it does some weird things) and I have yet to take a picture with the 55-200. So far the 35 and 50 have got the most interest and the 70-300 I hope to use this weekend.

I am also looking into film, so I can do night time long exposure shots. I have only tried a few with the D-80, but the purple in the corners is pronounced. That why I am thinking film for those kind of shots. Use the D-80 for test shot and film for the good one.

The screen is my biggest complaint with the laptop. Move it a little and the brightness changes pretty drastically.

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$1k seems like a good deal for what you got. Congrats!

Before you buy more stuff, I'd get comfortable with what you already have first and then make changes in your gear. That way you'll know why you don't want that particular gear anymore and what you can replace it with.

Film? You don't need film (and the d80 is strictly a digital camera) to take long exposure shots. All you have to do it set the dial to Bulb mode (B) and hold the trigger down for however long you want. Typically this is done with a shutter release trigger. I got mine from dealextreme.com for about $4.

Here's one I took for 1 hour 19 minutes to get some star trails:

Star Trails by Hyuni+, on Flickr

I suggest you join flickr and upload your photos to share and join online communities like photography-on-the.net I go to it on a daily basis to look at samples, ask questions, and ask for comments and critiques. It will step up your level of photographs like you wouldn't believe!

More knowledge & skill regarding photography will always give you better results than more or better gear.
If you haven't fully understood exposure and how cameras work, here's a REALLY good website I went to early on:
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Congrats again and good luck with your new hobby!

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I will post a long exposure pis i did last weekend. 19 minutes and I got purple in the corners. I have read that digital is common to do that and the D80 especially so.

I have a little expiriance with film from over ten years ago but even that was minimal. I figure a used film camera can be had real cheap. I do understand aprature (for depth of field), shutter time(to get a proper exposure), and Im getting a good grasp at predicting white ballance. By all means I am still green but am picking it up quickly. I have really been learning about light and filling in shadows or diffusing it.

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Before you jump into light and filling shadows with a diffuser, I would slap on your 35mm or 50mm and shoot 1,000 pics to your best ability, with no flash, in Aperture mode or Shutter mode, or full manual if you can. Will really help you grasp the concept even better. Don't forget ISO levels... I still don't know why they still call it ISO in the digital world, guess it carried over.

The purple can be a number of things if it isn't the digital sensor causing the noise. I guess out in Dixon you have a lot less city lights, but even the slightest bit of light can taint a long exposure.
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Here is what I am talking about with purple in the corners.

19 minute exposure, Fstop N/A, ISO 100

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well, your WB is wrong, an image is a bit overexposed and your lens is prone to chromatic abberation (purple) on the outside. One solution is to get a program that can compensate for it in PP like Lightroom or photoshop, or you can reframe for wider composition and then crop to cut the purple areas off.
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Sorry sqrly, as I'm sure you've read, the purple in the corners is just the nature of the beast with that older sensor. The newer cameras are less prone to this, but any digital sensor can get the purple fringing with really long exposures.

Another +1 for the Tokina 12-24 if you need a good Ultra-Wide. I've used mine for years, though I suck at landscapes.

[Hyuni] has some great advice.

Oh, and ditch those filters, concentrate on the photos.

As for the bag and keeping it dry on the back of the bike. If you give me the dimensions, I can sew you up a silnylon (silicon impregnated nylon kite material) bag that you can wrap around your camera bag. I can do a drawstring bag or bungie opening (think shower cap for your camera bag) that you can just pop on the bag when it's on the bike.

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Thanks for the offer Raven, but I am thinking better padding than the current camera bag is necessary for on the bike. I am looking to get into dual spotr adventure touring. The pelican case i saw at the camera store was pre-cut grid that you pick out the pockets as needed. I am a bit leery about that and I am wondering if it would be better to have a solid block of foam that I will mill out. I can do the milling at work for free so just the foam and case will cost money. Plus, with my history of crashing, I hope to have a setup that the camera will survive.

Raven, have you thought about a simple cover for the camera while on the tripod during a light sprinkle? I wanted to go out in the snow for a few pics but was afraid of the water getting on the camera.

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19 minute exposure into lights? Practice hand held shots above 1/60s before you try that again
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19 minute exposure into lights? Practice hand held shots above 1/60s before you try that again
That was my second attempt. Ever. The first ended up being a 30 second that failed terribly. Im thinking 5-7 will be my next attempt. I want the windows to glow. I found a much better spot that I can get a much better framing and eliminate that stupid white light in the middle on the outside. Also no crappy background building. Like I said, the pic is utter crap but it shows the purple that I was describing.

I'm going hiking Sunday, the 35mm will be my only lens coming along. We will see what I can do that way. Hoping to get some sunset pics as long as it isn't cloudy or something.

I'm trying to learn as much as fast as I can so this spring when I go on a trip, I can bring something home. I have been using full manual. I do ok until the internal light meter doesn't work due to night. I am at least geting more familiar with the controls.

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That was my second attempt. Ever. The first ended up being a 30 second that failed terribly. Im thinking 5-7 will be my next attempt. I want the windows to glow. I found a much better spot that I can get a much better framing and eliminate that stupid white light in the middle on the outside. Also no crappy background building. Like I said, the pic is utter crap but it shows the purple that I was describing.

I'm going hiking Sunday, the 35mm will be my only lens coming along. We will see what I can do that way. Hoping to get some sunset pics as long as it isn't cloudy or something.

I'm trying to learn as much as fast as I can so this spring when I go on a trip, I can bring something home. I have been using full manual. I do ok until the internal light meter doesn't work due to night. I am at least geting more familiar with the controls.

what was your aperture in that shot? for 19 minutes exposure it had to be pretty small. I find it much easier to do night shots with wider opened lens and less exposure time
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For some reason, the 18-135 that I used for that shot does not record or let me adjust the F-stop half the time. In the properties page, it says F-stop 0. I did one shot at 30 min F 2.5 Hahahaha guess how that turned out, try total white. I am gonna keep trying to get a good pic of that building even if it means 100,000 shots or a disposable camera. The only good shot of that building I have seen was from just after it was built 70-80 years ago. And that was a daytime shot.

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The F2.5 was with the 35mm when I decided that I wanted to work with that. Once I noticed the 18-135 doing weird stuff, I leave it out of the kit. I should have specified that. Sorry.

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Under a hundred is way better than the 200 for lightroom. I will look into those. Thanks

I am trying to prepare for a full embracement of lightroom. Years of photography and photoshoots involving, "cars" "motorcycle" "baby" "fish"

....how do you find whats what when trying to look back.


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A lot of guys with some serious experience giving some great advice. Kudos

If you want to come out and shoot action (bikes) let me know and I'll hook you up with side line at the track. Mike from sideline usually has the newest stuff available too so you can see what's going to come out or is just out that season.

I use a nikon d300 and with a little practice (iso/ap/shutter etc) you'll be bringing home some stellar stuff with the set up you have.

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Thanks for all the help, everybody. Keep it coming, I am trying to absorb as much as fast as possible.

Here are a couple I took today. Absolutely no processing. Re-sized in photobucket. Weren't any clouds for a colorful sunset.

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F2.5, Shutter 130.7 sec, ISO 100, Focal 35mm W/B Auto

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F4.8, Shutter 1/1250, ISO 100, Focal 112, W/B Sunny

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....how do you find whats what when trying to look back.


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A lot of guys with some serious experience giving some great advice. Kudos

If you want to come out and shoot action (bikes) let me know and I'll hook you up with side line at the track. Mike from sideline usually has the newest stuff available too so you can see what's going to come out or is just out that season.

I use a nikon d300 and with a little practice (iso/ap/shutter etc) you'll be bringing home some stellar stuff with the set up you have.
I am trying to get the basics to be second nature right now so that when riding season I can learn moving target stuff. Let me get some practice in and I will hit you up on that offer.



Samal, I tried the larger aperture and it worked well. I will try to do some more shots after work during the week. Thanks.

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Nice pictures!

couple critique comments -
#2 - horizon is not straight - not horizontal, composition is too centered. Look up "Rule of Thirds" and try to follow it - makes for better composition

Also, I really recommend this book:
http://www.amazon.com/Understanding-.../dp/0817439390
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