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help me pick out a camera

well for a long time ive been wanting to get into it, and i want to pull the trigger now.

for the longest i wanted a D7000 Nikon, but not sure i really need to spend thousands on a whole set up right now.

hows that 5100?

heck what do you suggest, like anything i get into i want something REALLY nice and plenty of room to learn and grow into it and now out grow it fast.

what kind of package deals you suggest body, and must have lenses.

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Read all the old posts and just substitute the model names for the appropriate current model.

I'm still taking great photos out of my D40, so don't dump a bunch of $$ into a body. I later added some good lenses which will work just as well on a newer body (assuming you aren't going crazy and want full frame stuff).

Go with whatever the cost equivalent is today for a D40 plus a single 18-200 lens and you're covered for a long while. I'm over 30,000 photos on my setup and it's still working perfectly.

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thanks Jeff, just did a compare line up and honestly spec to spec, that nikon 5100 and 7000 look the same, except the price.

what am i missing there?



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The D300 and D7000 have faster processors, which will make a difference when you are shooting objects that move at high speed (such as close-ups at the track). The faster processor will auto-focus faster, set auto-exposure faster, and capture more frames/second. Otherwise, a lower priced camera is fine.

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Budget? 1000-1700 (hopefully I don't go over like usual) lol
Uses; I like macro shots, track shooting, scenery, and of course taking pictures of funny shit and family and kids etc.
I really want something nice but not total I am opening a photog business shit. I would like the means if I ever hooked up defused lighting to it, don't know if I need lenses with motors or get the body that has one or even what's the difference of which is better.

Something that allows
Me to not be limited I guess.



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The 7000 series is an amazing camera. If I didn't have the D300, that's what I'd be shooting for.

Keep in mind, at the rate photo technology progresses, the body will be outdated in a few years. Invest most of the cash in the lenses.

I'm still using Nikon lenses from the 70's if that tells you anything.

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Roger that. So let say I go with the d7000. Help me pick a lens.



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as far as camera goes, do you really really wanna go with Nikon? I've been using Canon for past 10 years and it's an awesome camera. every time I hold a Nikon it feels like sxxt (sorry Nikon users ) but anyway, when you get into dslr, you are gonna want to buy nice lens so buy a mediocre body and spend good money on the lens(es), you can shoot some amazing photographs with nice lens.

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Hey dude long time!!

I got divorced, it was bitter and I lost almost everything including all my bikes. Now life is great and I am getting into my swing of things again. Getting all kinda goodies I've been putting off for a while.

No I am not stuck on nikon.



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Buy a decent used body a year or two old.

Dump major coin into Glass, for whatever type of shooting you will be doing.




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Hey dude long time!!

I got divorced, it was bitter and I lost almost everything including all my bikes. Now life is great and I am getting into my swing of things again. Getting all kinda goodies I've been putting off for a while.

No I am not stuck on nikon.

shit, sorry to hear that... but im glad everything is ok now. r u planning to get back on riding again?

Why dont you check out Canon cameras like 60d or maybe used 50d. you wont regret buying canon cameras.

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I love my canon.




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Canon 1D mkIV and a 70-200 IS II. Good for the track with 10fps shooting.


On a serious note, nikons are great, i have a d5000. But will you be shooting video at all? If you will br, canons t2i or t3i kicks ass at HD 1080p video, especially paired with a Nice lens. Nikons video mode doesnt compare even though its HD.

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Hey dude long time!!

I got divorced, it was bitter and I lost almost everything including all my bikes. Now life is great and I am getting into my swing of things again. Getting all kinda goodies I've been putting off for a while.

No I am not stuck on nikon.
I won't get into the Nikon/Canon debate, that's like Ford vs Chevy. You might try holding one of each in your hand (at the price range you're looking at - $2300 Canon is nothing like a $1000 Canon). When I first got into photography, grabbing each and going over the menu systems quickly told me which to buy.

Image quality, they both are amazing if you put the money into the lenses.

As for what lenses, you need to decide what kind of budget your willing to spend on your first lens, and what kind of shooting you're doing.

Lenses are like golf clubs (or if you'd like to use weapons for your analogy), in skilled hands almost anything will work, but you really need to pick the right tool for the job.

IMHO, anyone who's looking to go beyond just Point and Shoot skill on AUTO, should buy themselves a 50mm f/1.4 (That's like the SV650 of lenses). Build your knowledge and chops with that lens, then figure out from there if you want to go wider for outdoor photography, faster for indoor/event photography, or longer for reach out and touch someone distance. Keep in mind, the 50mm f/1.4 is a pro-level lens you will keep with you forever. The manual focus one I used was from the mid 60's and I only sold it because I wanted the speed of an auto focus.

If you don't really feel like *learning* to use the camera, and you're planing on using the camera as more of a high end point and shoot, then get yourself one lens that has a lot of range, like the Nikon 18-200 or it's 3rd party equivalents

Keep in mind, the difference between one of these super zooms that do everything, and a pro level lens are typically twofold. #1 they don't let in as much light as a pro level lens, so you need LOTS of light to get your shots (think of a scope with wide objective vs one with a smaller objective). And #2, as you know, when you try to get one piece of gear to do *everything*, it gives up *something*.


The pro level equivalent, sort of the 50mm mentioned above meets the super zoom below, would be something like the Nikon 24-70 . That would be the one lens that could do 80% of what you need, and at a pro-quality level. The other 20% would be specialized stuff like a Pro-level Super Zoom for track days, or a Macro lens for Super-close-ups of bugs or whatever.


Sorry, that's a lot of info to throw at you at once. And I'm sure any one of the Canon guys could put together a lens basics just as well. So I'd say go get your hands on the models you're looking at getting, and work from there. You never know, you just might like the Canon.


EDIT to Add: I don't know anything about doing video on a D-SLR. All my cameras are straight up still shots only. Canon could kick all sorts of ass on video and I wouldn't be the wiser (added after reading the post above)

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That's the best advice right there. I was going to get a Canon XTi until I physically checked out each body and I found that I liked the feel and controls of the D40 much more. But check out all the body, not just the entry-level one as once you tart buying lenses then you are basically committed to the brand.

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In my opinion, 50mm on a crop body is too close. I find 30mm much more practical in all around use especially portrait photography. I have both 50 and 30mm. 50mm hardly ever comes out of my camera bag.

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In my opinion, 50mm on a crop body is too close. I find 30mm much more practical in all around use especially portrait photography. I have both 50 and 30mm. 50mm hardly ever comes out of my camera bag.
That's a very good point. My Go-to lens is a Sigma 30mm. It's been rattling around in my tank bag since 2007 and working well (Though looking kinda rough).

The 50mm is still a fantastic lens, I just wanted to get that out there. I still use it on my DX (cropped sensor), but I just take a few steps further back. It makes for a great portrait and low light lens. The 30mm equivalent is considerably more expensive.

And I agree above about being married to a system once you start in on the lenses. It's tough to get your money out of them...though I have to say, the same Nikon lenses I bought 5 years ago, are actually getting the same price on the *used* market as what I paid for them...since prices have gone up so much recently.

Not that is going to help anyone buying a lens today, just something I noticed.

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Thanks for the info it made perfect sense and no. It didn't overwhelm me. Cannon seems to have better insides then nikon price to price, nikon has a few more percs price to price. All I care about is feel and the sensor being the best buck to buck price.

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My Go-to lens is a Sigma 30mm.
Thats exactly what I was talking about, I have the same one (Sigma 30mm EX 1.4) on my 7D body right now. I hear you on 50mm very nice lens indeed.

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felt up and went through menus and on screen settings etc,etc,etc,

the only thing i can say is grip and the shutter button on a nikon is more upright for my grip versus the cannon's more forward. the both felt the same in my hand other wise and for flicking stuff around the nikon i liked better.
also handeled a few of them taking shots and what not checking the shots and well nikon was more user friendly.

funny part is i like the D7000

guess its that one.

now i need help finding the best price (NEW) with a good lens.

can you guys suggest or find me the best deal please?

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If you want to buy brand new lenses, you can check out adorama.com or bhphotovideo.com they are the most reputable online camera (and other electronics) store that i know. i've been buying it from adorama and they have very good customer service and competitive price. otherwise, if you were to buy canon, I would tell you to go to the Canon forum (website like here clsb but they are canon camera users) but im sure Nikon users have their own forums too. or try craigslist, i bought few nice lenses for real good price in craigslist.

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also, I recommend you to buy a one prime lens like 30mm 1.4f or 1.6f even 1.8f (i dont know what Nikon makes but something in that range) and one all around/walk around lens such as 15-85mm 3.5f zoom lens (if you can afford lower number f-stop like 2.8f or so, it would be very nice but they are usually very expensive). 30mm is really good for portrait photo and zoom lens will be your everything else lens like group pictures, landscape, travel, architechtural, nature, etc...

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I need a new camera and I've typically avoided anything with a large body due to it being so bulky but I also love the photos it can produce. What's the best purchase for a cheapass that wants DSLR results without carrying a huge rig and a bag of lenses?


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I need a new camera and I've typically avoided anything with a large body due to it being so bulky but I also love the photos it can produce. What's the best purchase for a cheapass that wants DSLR results without carrying a huge rig and a bag of lenses?
remember I'm a sportbiker, ie incredibly cheap.

oooh.... i dont know about cheap.... but check this site out.

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I need a new camera and I've typically avoided anything with a large body due to it being so bulky but I also love the photos it can produce. What's the best purchase for a cheapass that wants DSLR results without carrying a huge rig and a bag of lenses?


remember I'm a sportbiker, ie incredibly cheap.
Buy a used D40/D40x/D60/Dwhatever it's called now. The body is small and it produces wonderful photos with a decent lens. Or an older Rebel XT/XTi/XSi for a similar Canon package.

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