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Anyone taking or taken a photography class in the chicago area that can recommend a school? I'm looking for something DSLR specific (no interest in film). I'm not looking for a "degree" class, I want something practical, maybe that incorporates photoshop? Also, I've self taught the basics: Aperture, Shutter speed, camera operation, etc. So I'd rather not waste the money on a basic class. I'd really like to learn more about metering, white balance, and photoshop processing.
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I haven't taken a class myself but various community colleges might have the photography classes.

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I took one at College of Lake County. Digital Photography was the name of the course, and it sucked.

There were morons in there that didn't own a digital camera, and those that did were using P&S's and didn't know how to turn them off or charge them.

The few of us that had the basics already down pat spent a lot of time helping the other students. I learned a lot about Photochop, that was the main reason I took the course.

As far as a photography "degree" course, I don't know what the you are talking about. You can be a "film major" or of the sort. The course I took was 3 art credits and could be applied toward a degree if need be.

Take the class, and read some books. It'll all be really fooking confusing if ya don't do either.
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I haven't taken a class myself but various community colleges might have the photography classes.
You'll get the most comprehensive training at a class at a comm college. I learned all the basic SLR stuff plus photoshop there (although back in those days, it was on version 1.5 ).

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id think they would have good courses downtown at fine art institutions like american academy of art or columbia where my cousin majored in photography

i know those are degree courses like you said you dont want but just a thought. maybe check out local recreation community center for either a photography class or club?

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I took one at College of Lake County. Digital Photography was the name of the course, and it sucked.

There were morons in there that didn't own a digital camera, and those that did were using P&S's and didn't know how to turn them off or charge them.

The few of us that had the basics already down pat spent a lot of time helping the other students. I learned a lot about Photochop, that was the main reason I took the course.

As far as a photography "degree" course, I don't know what the you are talking about. You can be a "film major" or of the sort. The course I took was 3 art credits and could be applied toward a degree if need be.

Take the class, and read some books. It'll all be really fooking confusing if ya don't do either.
Do you even read posts? lol... I've read quite a few books. I DON'T want exactly the type of class you posted about. Looking more for an "adult learners" type class for people that just want to be able to take good photos and have a good understanding of digital SLR's and photoshop.
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Do you even read posts? lol... I've read quite a few books. I DON'T want exactly the type of class you posted about. Looking more for an "adult learners" type class for people that just want to be able to take good photos and have a good understanding of digital SLR's and photoshop.
You asked if anyone in Chicago or the Chicago area has taken a photography class can recommend a school to you. I recommend going to your local community college because it is still informative with a real instructor who knows what they are doing, and because it is more affordable than blowing $1k on something like the New York Institute of Photography.

The class I posted about was the intro course, there was the advanced one after that which required a prerequisite of the intro.

Photography takes more than just understanding the fundamentals and technical aspects, it takes an artistic eye, which not everyone was blessed with (I suck at art, but can take a decent picture). Sure, you can take a good picture, most digital cameras will let you do that, but not all of them are photos that pop out at you grabbing your attention, drawing you in and making you want to look at it more.
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I hear ya, I just don't think I'm going to gain an artistic eye by taking a class. That's something you either have or you don't.
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I hear ya, I just don't think I'm going to gain an artistic eye by taking a class. That's something you either have or you don't.
If you're looking for an artistic eye, then a class might not help that much. Go look at what others do on forums such as http://dpreview.com and participate in discussions. Hands down one of my other favorite sites for critique and some photoshop work is http://www.radiantvista.com/

So if you're looking for that artistic edge and some ideas, then a class probably won't help you. Learning white balance and metering are no different than learning aperture and shutter, they are just another part of the camera to use in your composition...so for something like that you really don't need a class. The only thing you might look to take a course on is Photoshop, but you can also download lessons and learn it on your own as many others have. Mostly you'll learn by example and practice.
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If you're looking for an artistic eye, then a class might not help that much. Go look at what others do on forums such as http://dpreview.com and participate in discussions. Hands down one of my other favorite sites for critique and some photoshop work is http://www.radiantvista.com/

So if you're looking for that artistic edge and some ideas, then a class probably won't help you. Learning white balance and metering are no different than learning aperture and shutter, they are just another part of the camera to use in your composition...so for something like that you really don't need a class. The only thing you might look to take a course on is Photoshop, but you can also download lessons and learn it on your own as many others have. Mostly you'll learn by example and practice.
HOLY #)$*)(@#*$)(@#$)@#$)*@#)$* DUDE. Did you read the sentence you quoted? I KNOW I'm not going to suddenly gain an "artistic eye" from a class. That's what I just said!!! I want a class on photoshop and more advanced camera techniques.
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Do you even read posts? lol...
I'd imagine when in a post-whore battle with another newb you don't have time to read the message

Wolf Camera offers complimentary classes with camera purchases, but I believe you can sign up for them. That might be a good way to cover the material you are looking for, assuming the teacher knows his stuff.

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Take a Photoshop class. OCC and Harper both have them, thats the only way you will learn anythign about photoshop.

Take a REAL film photography class and then read you cameras manual on how to apply to digital camera. Pictures are pictures, film or digital, digital just allows more fine tooning ability in the camera.

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MM- that's what I'm going to do. I think I can get by then without the photography class.

Might buy myself a christmas present this year...

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try this one:

http://www.hydeparkart.org/

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http://www.chicagophoto.org/newweb/index.php
I treid them out and thought they were a bunch of pompous a-holes. So I left and got a refund. But many people say they love it there. They will not ley you bypass their intro class though no matter how much experience you have.
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I've decided to continue with the self-teach method.... Bought a couple PS CS3 books today and have already learned a lot. Working on stitching and cloning now. Hopefully I'll have some cool pics to work with tomorrow.
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Nick, I'd be mega-jealous if you get the D300. Since my computer croaked, I had to dump some decent cash into a new one, and gave up on the D300 for now.

Anywho, I have some stuff for you. PM me and I'll hook you up. Especially now that you've decided to go down the self motivated path.

Also, what camera do you have currently?

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Nick, I'd be mega-jealous if you get the D300. Since my computer croaked, I had to dump some decent cash into a new one, and gave up on the D300 for now.

Anywho, I have some stuff for you. PM me and I'll hook you up. Especially now that you've decided to go down the self motivated path.

Also, what camera do you have currently?
Here Eric, Just to tease you and rub it in how nice that camera is.

If you haven't already seen any samples.

Here are some D3 samples

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Here Eric, Just to tease you and rub it in how nice that camera is.

If you haven't already seen any samples.

Here are some D3 samples

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Bastid!

I told you the high ISO performance was better!

There is a full rez shot going around the web shot at the highest ISO on the D300, and the blacks are actually black! Not that mottled black with bright blue and red specks like I get with my D200.

That new camera is going to be so HOTT!

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