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Canon and Nikon.. Just Wow!

So much impressive new gear coming out...

Canon

Body - Canon EOS 50D
15MP? Damn...

Lens - EF-S 18-200mm f/3.5-5.6 IS
The perfect walkaround lens?



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D90
An SLR that does high def video? Bad Ass!

D700
Basically a D3 in a smaller package... for 40% less money... Sweet.

I know there is more.. Those are just a couple of the hot items I saw so far...

Nikon appears to have stepped their high speed sports game up so much.. I am contemplating switching over... (plus I could borrow lenses from my bro in law )
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Held the D700 the other day, same full frame chip as the D3 and the same ISO capability. The body is NOT similar, and the speed is lower. It may well be my next camera.

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agreed to everything wink said (i put a link to the camera in the name when I posted in case anyone missed that)

the speed does bump up a bit when you add the battery grip...
if that matters (say for sport shooting?)
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btw.. here is a d700/d3 comparison

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Lens - EF-S 18-200mm f/3.5-5.6 IS
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Anyone seen any prices on that one yet? I cant wait to see some real tests of it. Crossing my fingers thats it is good.




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Anyone seen any prices on that one yet? I cant wait to see some real tests of it. Crossing my fingers thats it is good.
I saw 699 MSRP initially...
I've only looked for a second.. but I don't see that anymore.. maybe Canon had them pull it...


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http://www.dpreview.com/previews/can...00_3p5-5p6_is/
they have msrp at 699
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I may very well move up to the D90; the price point on that is right (~$1000) and I'm already over 20,000 exposures on my D40. I still think the D300/700/3 is overkill for an amateur/hobbyist.

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Man, these companies are really churning out the goods!

It's fantastic that computers are helping to push the digital revolution...but it's hard to keep up!

I do wish Nikon would finish updating it's lens lineup though. It's great that they are popping out new cameras every 18 months...but what about the lenses?

I'm still waiting on a 50mm f/1.4 AF-S

Or Better yet, 24mm f/1.4 AF-S

Or where is my 17-70 f/2.8 WITH VR!!

Not that I've been using my camera a lot lately...been too busy with house stuff...my photos for Chills photo challenge were laughable.

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I may very well move up to the D90; the price point on that is right (~$1000) and I'm already over 20,000 exposures on my D40. I still think the D300/700/3 is overkill for an amateur/hobbyist.
Dude, that's some great miliage on your D40. And seriously, I think your skills have evolved beyond the D40.

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Dude, that's some great miliage on your D40. And seriously, I think your skills have evolved beyond the D40.
I bought one for here at work...
Was kind of a hard sell to get a "real" camera as opposed to the p/s we usually check out to the users...
they broke the damn thing the first day... first person who checked it out... @#[email protected]#$%

the lens uses a plastic ring to mount to the camera (where on my canon that ring is steel) ... the guy climbed up on a ladder to get a photo of an event.. and fell off the ladder.. broke the 18-55 lens...

I imagine the longer and or higher end lenses for nikon use steel not plastic..

replaced the lens and its working fine again.. so i should correct that.. they didnt actually break the camera.. they broke the lens.. i think it's fixable.. and or kinda usable.. just tends to pop loose when they af moves...
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Yes, kit lenses do have plastic mounts...and there has been talk that some people found their plastic mounts warped (from heat or manufacture nobody knows).

I would never buy a plastic mount lens...it's only the very most bottom ones that have that....but now that I think about it...I do have some lower end lenses I picked up for Brianne...I wonder if they are plastic mount or not...

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Yes, kit lenses do have plastic mounts...and there has been talk that some people found their plastic mounts warped (from heat or manufacture nobody knows).

I would never buy a plastic mount lens...it's only the very most bottom ones that have that....but now that I think about it...I do have some lower end lenses I picked up for Brianne...I wonder if they are plastic mount or not...
I bought the kit that included the 18-55 and 55-200 for something like 650$

the 18-55 is the lens that was broken
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I may very well move up to the D90; the price point on that is right (~$1000) and I'm already over 20,000 exposures on my D40. I still think the D300/700/3 is overkill for an amateur/hobbyist.
The D90 for sure looks like a nice leap. I'm sure part of the price is for the video capabilities which I could not ever justify for the life of me. But otherwise looks like a solid purchase. I'm happy with the D300 for quite a while. Only place to go from here would be to a full frame body. I think it will take me quite a while to outgrow the D300 considering there's pros out there running around with lower end cameras than that.
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Lenses Bro...lenses. The D300 is a fantastic camera. Hell, the D200 was a fantastic camera. So just upgrade your lenses and beat the snot out of the D300!

I'm so missing my shooting time...I took Brianne to the Brookfield zoo this weekend, and I'm afraid to see how the photos turned out...I've been making crap lately...

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Oh no, I have no plans of shifting any time soon. D300 and my 17-55 f/2.8, along with some other lenses should last for quite some time.
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I miss my 17-55. I sold in when I heard rumors of the 17-70 f/2.8 VR that turned into a 24-70 f/2.8 (no VR).

I'll probably still upgrade to the 24-70, but I'm still miffed that they dropped the VR. The prototypes *had* VR, so I can only guess it was dropped to keep in a cost bracket.

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VR is nice. It's just more handy when you're shooting further. I guess if I don't want to drop to 2.8 it'd be nice to have in a darker place. But with 2.8 and decent results at 1600 or 3200 ISO I'm ok without VR. Granted if it came out it would still be a tempting upgrade.
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The X factor

Ultra-high definition 24.5-megapixel flagship takes DSLR into medium-format terrain

The professional SLR world has been transformed in just 12 months by the introduction of no less than four new Nikon pro SLR bodies. First we saw the D3 and D300. Then there was the D700. Now, with the launch of the D3x, Nikon offers more FX format pro cameras than any other manufacturer. At 24.5MP, the D3x has the highest resolution seen in a Nikon SLR to date.

The new camera shares all of the D3’s features, including Live View (making it the world’s highest resolution SLR with viewscreen shooting); the 51-point MultiCAM3500FX autofocus system; Scene Recognition System; Expeed 16-bit processing; 3-inch high-resolution 922.000-dot viewing screen; and the tough, weather-resistant magnesium body.

The D3x was designed with medium format photographic applications in mind. The ISO range covers 100-1600 with a Lo1 (equivalent to ISO 50) as well as boost settings up to the equivalent of ISO 6400.

But it’s also fast. The D3x can record its high-resolution 24.5MP files at up to 5fps. As with the D3, it has two alternative crop modes: 5:4 and DX In DX crop mode the camera captures 10MP files at up to 7fps.

The MultiCAM3500FX AF system is the same as the D3, and has the largest number of individually selectable focus points available, making this a very effective system for isolating fine details in the scene. The widely acclaimed Autofocus Tracking capabilities are, as you would expect, the same as the D3.

Pixel numbers alone do not guarantee good quality pictures. The D3x Expeed image-processing system is custom-designed to render this detail with levels of tonal gradation never before seen in a DSLR. Its 75MB files are ideally suited for stock photography and extremely high levels of enlargement.

And being a Nikon SLR, its body is much faster, intuitive to handle and ergonomically advanced than heavy and complex medium-format systems.

You’ll have guessed by now that the D3x is armed at photographers whose work requires the ultimate in detail and output quality Where skin tones, fabric textures, crisp edges, and foliage are paramount - in the fashion, commercial and landscape area - the D3x excels.

Beyond the confines of the studio lighting environment, the onboard exposure metenng and AWB systems make the D3x equally at home in less controlled lighting situations where the aim is to capture the atmosphere of ambient lighting.

FEATURES

THE SENSOR
The D3x has an exclusive 35.9 x 24mm (FX format) 24.5MP image sensor with unique OLPF (optical low pas filter) and high-speed channel readout. ISO range covers the equivalent of 50-6400.

IN FOCUS
The widely acclaimed speed and accuracy of the MultiCAM3500 AF system with 51-AF points. Individual selection assumes a new importance in combination with the high resolution: it’s easy to isolate and focus on small details in the scene.

SPEED AND RESPONSE
At full 24.5MP resolution, the D3x shoots at 5fps, 7fps is possible in DX Crop mode. The camera is as responsive as the superfast D3. 12ms start up with a shutter release lag time of just 41 ms (CIPA standard). It writes files to the dual CF slots at about 35MB per second.

IMAGE PROCESSING
The D3x’s 16-bit EXPEED engine is specially tuned to deliver detail-rich, colourful files with low levels of noise and high detail. It is also tuned to minimise the effects of colour fringing with older F-mount Nikkor lenses, and to minimise the effect of unnatural-looking (digital) noise patterns. Vignette (peripheral fall-off) can also be controlled for creative effect.

ACTIVE D-LIGHTING
The D3x features a new Extra High Active D-Lighting setting, designed to better manage extremely high-contrast scenes, especially tonal gradation in highlights.

SCENE RECOGNITION SYSTEM
Information from the 1005-pixel RGB sensor with diffraction grating is used to recognise the subject position and colour prior to capture. The results are then used by autofocus, auto exposure and auto white balance.

LIVE VIEW
The D3x is the highest resolution digital SLR yet to offer Live View. Allowing photographers to compose and shoot via the 3in monitor instead of the viewfinder brings a variety of practical advantages both in the studio and on location. Two modes are offered: Handheld and Tripod. Contrast-detect autofocus is available in Tripod mode.

MONITOR
3-inch wide-angle (170deg) rear viewing screen, with 922,000 dots, is ultra-high definition, and proven to exhibit extraordinary levels of damage resistance.

THE INTERFACES
USB 2.0 downloads images off the camera fast when tethered, and flexibly when connected with the WT-4 wireless transmitter. With both HDMI and AV/Out ports GPS data can be captured into the EXIF as before. The new, compact Nikon GP-1 GPS unit can also be attached via the 10-pin terminal and mounted in the hotshoe, or clip on the camera strap.

POWER MANAGEMENT
The D3x uses the same high performance lithium-ion battery (EN-EL4a) as the D3. Thanks to efficiencies in the camera’s onboard EXPEED image-processing system, battery performance is comparable with the D3.

THE BODY
Extremely durable magnesium construction with ergonomically optimised and weather-sealed buttons, dials and LCD displays. Extensive use of high-grade rubber grips means the body is comfortable to handle for long periods of time, and in a wide range of temperatures.
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I miss my 17-55. I sold in when I heard rumors of the 17-70 f/2.8 VR that turned into a 24-70 f/2.8 (no VR).

I'll probably still upgrade to the 24-70, but I'm still miffed that they dropped the VR. The prototypes *had* VR, so I can only guess it was dropped to keep in a cost bracket.
I will be upgrading my lens in December - I have sigma 18-200 f/3.5-6.3 - nice lens to walk around, but absolute crap in low light and indoors action.

I am planning to go with Sigma 18-50 mm F2.8 EX DC Macro, and something a bit faster for a telephoto than what I have - may be a used 70-200 f/4?

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I may very well move up to the D90; the price point on that is right (~$1000) and I'm already over 20,000 exposures on my D40. I still think the D300/700/3 is overkill for an amateur/hobbyist.
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