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need your opinion.. Nikon D60 or d80?

Very casual shooter, maybe will buy one to two additional lens's.

is it DEF worth the extra cash to step up to d80 or will the d60 suffice. The cash could be used elsewhere in life but I dont want to screw my self on the back end.


I am looking at purchasing from dell.com becausetheir pricing has been good and I have a 200 dollah gift card with them that makes this all possible.


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D700 is the bomb! Closest thing to the D3, way less money.

Related to bodies, always buy what you can afford, they all get obsolete so quickly, that it makes the lifespan longer on the usefulness. Since you are looking at Nikon, that will give you the longest and widest range of glass, and THAT is the key to making your money last. Take the basic lenses that come WITH the camera. But when you buy glass, buy the best you can afford at the time. You'll be able to use that glass over and over for years to come as you update the body from time to time.

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I bought the D40 back in June, came with 18-55 zoom and the 55-200 zoom, nice camera bag, couple of dvds on how to use the thing, shipped to my door for $499 from wolfcamera.com I took it to China and the Motogp in Indy, for a hack like me, perfect camera. The D60 and D80 are a few more features and few more MPs, the D40 is a little lighter, I think.

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D700 is the bomb! Closest thing to the D3, way less money.
That's not even in the same ballpark. The D700 is $3000!

My opinion: get a new D40 for cheaper than the D60. The D80/60 are NOT worth the extra $$ for a casual shooter.The D60 (or 40x for that matter) have really nothing new added to them worth mentioning and the original D40 actually has a few advantages over the newer version (IMO). Search the forums as I've posted many times about this camera and why you can't lose with it.

Dell has the D40 for $479, so if you can apply that $200 gift card on it, do that! It's a no brainer, I paid $500 for that camera when it was new, getting one for $279 is a steal. For that cost difference you can pick up extra memory cards, a small shoulder bag, lens filter, cleaning kit, IR remote, and an extra battery. Then I would save up for couple lenses in the future once you figure out what you like to shoot.

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Get a good point and shoot for a casual shooter...
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Jeff said everything I was goinng to say.. So a bit +1 to that.
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yea I should probably change the phrasing on "casual shooter"

I meant to say, I will invest into this hobby, but im not going to drop thousands on lens's


my background is heavy in photography as proceeding my current career I was going into photography for career.

so skills and experiance were high, its just I have not been up on keeping an eye the technology progression and I am trying to make sure I make the most of my money.

If I go for the d60 I can afford buying a wall mount for my LCD as well.

but I dont want to miss out on features that I Would utilize. (but they have to be a big deal) to make it worth the d80.
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my recommendation is to get the newest model of whatever price range you choose. the d80 is an older model, and they've come leaps and bounds in a few key features in the latest model refresh. if you were going to buy a new d80, i'd say look at the d90. those types of things can't always be fixed with good glass (focusing speed, low light quailty, etc). I think the d60 is a new model as well.

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yea I should probably change the phrasing on "casual shooter"

I meant to say, I will invest into this hobby, but im not going to drop thousands on lens's


my background is heavy in photography as proceeding my current career I was going into photography for career.

so skills and experiance were high, its just I have not been up on keeping an eye the technology progression and I am trying to make sure I make the most of my money.

If I go for the d60 I can afford buying a wall mount for my LCD as well.

but I dont want to miss out on features that I Would utilize. (but they have to be a big deal) to make it worth the d80.
So.... with that said, do you understand ISO, shutter speed, and aperture?
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So.... with that said, do you understand ISO, shutter speed, and aperture?
but of course mosami! (french accent)


I used to have fun in the days of 35mm with dual exposure, long shutters and lighting effects. etc. etc. Pretty much all the hard stuff that was easily replaced by photoshop.



Another Idea i had was, buy the lens from dell.com with the 200 and by a d80 body elsewhere. thoughts?
I really like the d80 having more focus sensors "Auto Focus Points (Zones) 11 "



So far the lens I like and can afford is;

Because I will be doing more close up macro + people photos. the most outdoor and distance photos would be pictures of LoKi.


Cost; 197$

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Alright, first of all that isn't a macro lens. Second of all, its a DX lens. If you haven't noticed, the high end bodies are going full frame, I suspect that within 5-10 years most bodies will have ff sensors. That's a shot in the dark, but I really think it's going to happen.

If you are comfortable with photography, get comfortable with a DSLR like a D80. It is a great camera. But you might get bored with it, who knows. Knowing you and your track record with gizmos, you'll have a D200 sooner than later.
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Nah, getting ready to buy another Sony... too many high end lenses. But I shot with a D300 last night. Have a buddy with a D3 that I have used as well.

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Alright, first of all that isn't a macro lens. Second of all, its a DX lens. If you haven't noticed, the high end bodies are going full frame, I suspect that within 5-10 years most bodies will have ff sensors. That's a shot in the dark, but I really think it's going to happen.

If you are comfortable with photography, get comfortable with a DSLR like a D80. It is a great camera. But you might get bored with it, who knows. Knowing you and your track record with gizmos, you'll have a D200 sooner than later.
Indeed its not a macro lens but its got a focs poit of 11" compared to three feet on all the others.

DX lenss vs others I have no clue as I havent kept up on any of that. I know it was silly of me to post d60 vs d80 knowing damn right that I would go d80 regardless. and I do agree that you are right about my prgression with things LoL.

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Nah, getting ready to buy another Sony... too many high end lenses. But I shot with a D300 last night. Have a buddy with a D3 that I have used as well.
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3ft on all others is like saying you took a 100 hour nap. Don't exaggerate!

D300 ftw! Feel free to come over and shoot with mine if you'd like Rick.
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3ft on all others is like saying you took a 100 hour nap. Don't exaggerate!

D300 ftw! Feel free to come over and shoot with mine if you'd like Rick.
dont tempt me succubus!

I am pushing up to the d80 as is you and your tempting of the d300

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I'd suggest the Panasonic FZ-50. Good quality glass, covers nice zoom range, no need to sink money into cheaper kit lenses. I shot an FZ-30 that gave pretty impressive results. Unless you gotta have an SLR it's a nice SLR-like camera.
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I'd suggest the Panasonic FZ-50. Good quality glass, covers nice zoom range, no need to sink money into cheaper kit lenses. I shot an FZ-30 that gave pretty impressive results. Unless you gotta have an SLR it's a nice SLR-like camera.
Did you read his experience? I would say he'd be better off with something a little more advanced.
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I'd suggest the Panasonic FZ-50. Good quality glass, covers nice zoom range, no need to sink money into cheaper kit lenses. I shot an FZ-30 that gave pretty impressive results. Unless you gotta have an SLR it's a nice SLR-like camera.
Its SLR FTW


D80 has been chosen. thinking about anything else is like wankin without cumin, its just pointless.

I always go for the max on what I can do for the fact that shortly I will then need to step up to the next tier.



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Just get the d90
Otherwise you'll be kicking yourself
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It just makes for one less camera you have to carry
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I always go for the max on what I can do for the fact that shortly I will then need to step up to the next tier.
Than what was even the point of this thread?

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Than what was even the point of this thread?
To attempt to combat my inner nature of spending more. you fockers could have tried to push me to a d60, but no.



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I tried to steer you to a friggen $250 steal!
No one here questions your cheap bastard skills! Looking back... you are correct about pricing... I could have used that for a bit and given it to another. But its just I know I would outgrow the 40 ridiculously quickly
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No one here questions your cheap bastard skills! Looking back... you are correct about pricing... I could have used that for a bit and given it to another. But its just I know I would outgrow the 40 ridiculously quickly
If you'd outgrow the D40 then you'd outgrow the D60 too. D80 sort of takes a bigger leap and is a nice lower/mid level SLR. Considering it's the backup to my D300, I like.
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If you'd outgrow the D40 then you'd outgrow the D60 too.

Hell I'm still trying to figure out how one "outgrows" a camera. I know a bunch of people that still use their D70's and Canon XT's that still take better pics than people with 40D's.

If you WANT a new body thats one thing, but to use "outgrow" as an excuse is another.
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Hell I'm still trying to figure out how one "outgrows" a camera. I know a bunch of people that still use their D70's and Canon XT's that still take better pics than people with 40D's.

If you WANT a new body thats one thing, but to use "outgrow" as an excuse is another.

I believe a skilled photographer can EASILY outgrow bodies. Its people who fail to utilize their camera's efficently and believe that buying a higher end body will give them all the performance that they need and fail to increase their skills that waste their cash.


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