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What is a digital illustration? When do we divide photography and something that has been manipulated beyond the original photo's recognition?

For me, I say a photograph is something that can be done in an old film darkroom. Anything more than that is a digital illustration.

Anyone ever had this debate? Thoughts?
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Well practically anything that you can do on Photoshop you can pretty much do on film when you develop it. I mean... you obviously can't go crazy with with the film, but you can overlap films to add things that weren't really in the photo, you can doge and burn it to lighten or darken the film. I would still say that's altering the photo, or illustrating it. Just not digitally. I just think it's easier digitally, but A LOT more fun the old way... I miss working with film
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Leave the graphics designer alone!

I agree to a certain extent with Hunny, but there are TONS of things you CAN'T do in the lab, that you can do on photochop.
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Leave the graphics designer alone!

I agree to a certain extent with Hunny, but there are TONS of things you CAN'T do in the lab, that you can do on photochop.
LOL, i'm just teasin her.

I'm still partial to black and white film, as a true medium. but With time comes progress and progress bring new ways of doing things. digital can still be considered photography, but i think once you start doing hdr, or anything to push the limits of the image and make it something else, it enters the realm of digital art, and leaves the photograph state.




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LOL, i'm just teasin her.

I'm still partial to black and white film, as a true medium. but With time comes progress and progress bring new ways of doing things. digital can still be considered photography, but i think once you start doing hdr, or anything to push the limits of the image and make it something else, it enters the realm of digital art, and leaves the photograph state.
HDR was started a loooong time ago. It's just bracketing and then three images can be enlarged on the same paper.

Even B&W digital isn't pure B&W, you can add and subtract colors to give it a different effect. Lots of controversy on that issue too.
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HDR was started a loooong time ago. It's just bracketing and then three images can be enlarged on the same paper.
Did not know that. See ya learn something new everyday. But that makes ya think as well, do certain film processing techniques take the image beyond a photograph and into the art realm. so it's not just digital, that takes it there.




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IMHO, "processing" the film, be it on paper or in pixels is photography.

Once you start cutting and pasting and taking images from multiple sources and combining them as a new work, that's graphic design.

Digital illustration is drawing with an input device (often combined with conversions and/or cut and paste of photos).

I'm sure you could break down these three catagories into multiple other catagories, and I would absolutely consider all three catagories "art".

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Computer illustration or digital illustration is the use of digital tools to produce images under the direct manipulation of the artist, usually through a pointing device such as a tablet or a mouse. It is distinguished from computer-generated art, which is produced by a computer using mathematical models created by the artist. It is also distinct from digital manipulation of photographs, in that it is an original construction "from scratch". (Photographic elements may be incorporated into such works, but they are not the primary basis or source for them.)

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Are these photo's, or photoshop drawings from scratch?







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IMHO, "processing" the film, be it on paper or in pixels is photography.

Once you start cutting and pasting and taking images from multiple sources and combining them as a new work, that's graphic design.

Digital illustration is drawing with an input device (often combined with conversions and/or cut and paste of photos).

I'm sure you could break down these three catagories into multiple other catagories, and I would absolutely consider all three catagories "art".
I agree all three are considered "art".

I'm just curious as to when we don't call it a "photograph" anymore. Where is the line drawn?

So, Rockstarr, as soon as I grab my lasso tool, it's an illustration? I'm baffled by this. I had a professor who couldn't answer this question, she wasn't the brightest tool in the knife drawer, but her answers were very vague.
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Are these photo's, or photoshop drawings from scratch?
Those look like photos to me, a couple look like HDR was used. Doesn't appear to be manipulated beyond this world where color was subtracted and added in certain areas, ehem.
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Those were drawn from scratch

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