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What do you guys thinks about this? Sounds like a good deal. I was thinking about the kit with the 18-200mm lens.
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I'd read this link before you make the call

http://www.resellerratings.com/store/Sonic_Cameras

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I'd read this link before you make the call

http://www.resellerratings.com/store/Sonic_Cameras

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Thanks Mort, you just saved me a lot of headaches. I've never read so many negative reviews about a business.
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Thanks Mort, you just saved me a lot of headaches. I've never read so many negative reviews about a business.
Me neither, that one was pretty bad, .58/10
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I was at Sam's Club over the weekend and they had it in stock. I don't know if anyone can beat the price they are selling it for.
http://www.samsclub.com/shopping/nav...849&pCatg=9740
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I was at Sam's Club over the weekend and they had it in stock. I don't know if anyone can beat the price they are selling it for.
http://www.samsclub.com/shopping/nav...849&pCatg=9740

That's expensive! you should of picked up my kit when I had it for sale.

Let me check on couple photo forums that I go to - may be someone reputable sells one
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this is what I found so far if you are not affraid to get used gear

FS: Used Canon Rebel Xti/400D + Accessories

Item/Product ID: Canon Rebel Xti/400D with accessories:

Asking Price $600 - $650 OBO

Includes:

Canon Rebel Xti
18-55 Kit lens
Sigma 70-300 APO DG Macro lens (w/lens hood)
Tamrac Adventure 3 camera bag
Canon NB-2LH Battery (x2) w/charger
Sandisk Ultra II 4gig memory card (not shown)
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(Manuals available upon request)

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Camera is about a year old, didn't use it that much, but it was what started me into photography. The image counter is at 4703, but I believe its more toward 9,000 shots. Sigma lens was hardly ever used, I didn't find myself needing a zoom lens much.

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Camera is almost like new, no scratches or visible damage to either the camera or lenses, all perform like they should.

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CONUS only please. I will not ship outside the US

Why Selling:
My event photography requires something a bit more rugged, will be using this money to put towards a 40D, ill then be able to swap batteries and grips across with my 30D while having a much stronger camera.

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That's expensive! you should of picked up my kit when I had it for sale.

Let me check on couple photo forums that I go to - may be someone reputable sells one
I would of picked up yours and saved a lot of time, but I just got my tax return and you already sold it.
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Samal, can you write the comparison between the XSi and the 40D? Is it really worth the extra money for the higher ISO?
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Samal, can you write the comparison between the XSi and the 40D? Is it really worth the extra money for the higher ISO?
question was asked many times before:

read this:
http://www.dpnotes.com/canon-40d-vs-...tal-rebel-xsi/

for me, it was not just ISO, but 6.5 fps vs 3.5 fps, much better focusing and tracking, better viewfinder, weatherproofing.
oh, size wise - XSI is way smaller and lighter, so it might be a factor - 40D is close to 2 lbs body I think
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question was asked many times before:

read this:
http://www.dpnotes.com/canon-40d-vs-...tal-rebel-xsi/

for me, it was not just ISO, but 6.5 fps vs 3.5 fps, much better focusing and tracking, better viewfinder, weatherproofing.
oh, size wise - XSI is way smaller and lighter, so it might be a factor - 40D is close to 2 lbs body I think
Thanks, already read that review. How did the night shots turn out with the XSi? I like doing night photgraphy. Do you think the durability difference is a big factor between the two?
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both bodies will do just fine. long exposures might overheat the sensor a bit faster on XSi - but we are talking about bulb exposures for 20-30 minutes like to track star movement

with 40D you have ISO 3200 that will make somewhat acceptable shots of objects that are not perfectly still at night, when combined with fast lens, - you will need to work on getting the noise out of the picture, but it's possible, with XSi, you are limited to 1600 - event with fast lens 70-200 f/2.8 i struggled to take good pictures of moving objects in low light.

I would suggest to save on the body and invest in glass instead. - go with XSi or even XTi but get decent lenses.

I got my 40D dirt cheap - used, otherwise I was almost happy with XSi

both bodies can outperform most hobbyist photographers
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Thanks, that's what I was looking for. Just need to find a descent deal on a XSi kit.
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Thanks, that's what I was looking for. Just need to find a descent deal on a XSi kit.
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Dude, if you see any deals, please let me know.
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I'm probably going to end up ordering through Amazon. Can't find a better deal anywhere, plus I trust them more than other on-line businesses.
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both deals are OK I guess.

the 75-300 III lens can be found, for under $150 or so, bag is another $30, so bundle makes sense if you want to have a telephoto, albeit cheap one to start with but don't plan on taking low light or action shots with it.

If you think that you will shoot some action or low light shots - don't get the combo, get just the kit lens and save up to some better telephoto, the 75-300 will be useless, unless you shot outdoors on a bright sunny day.
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both deals are OK I guess.

the 75-300 III lens can be found, for under $150 or so, bag is another $30, so bundle makes sense if you want to have a telephoto, albeit cheap one to start with but don't plan on taking low light or action shots with it.

If you think that you will shoot some action or low light shots - don't get the combo, get just the kit lens and save up to some better telephoto, the 75-300 will be useless, unless you shot outdoors on a bright sunny day.
Thanks for the info. I'll be ordering the one with the kit lens and enventually upgrade to a 18-200mm lens.
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Thanks for the info. I'll be ordering the one with the kit lens and enventually upgrade to a 18-200mm lens.
well, bear in mind that 18-200 will have exactly same limitations as 75-300 in low light or action indoors shooting

it will have a much better convenience factor than carrying 18-55 kit lens and a 75-300 in your bag.

I moved away from 18-200 for that reason and went with faster lenses.

The kit 18-55 IS is not bad at all in IQ, it's cheaply build and not too fast, but that's what you are paying for.
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well, bear in mind that 18-200 will have exactly same limitations as 75-300 in low light or action indoors shooting

it will have a much better convenience factor than carrying 18-55 kit lens and a 75-300 in your bag.

I moved away from 18-200 for that reason and went with faster lenses.

The kit 18-55 IS is not bad at all in IQ, it's cheaply build and not too fast, but that's what you are paying for.
Which lenses to do you have?
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I have Sigmas:
Sigma 18-50mm f/2.8 EX DC HSM Macro - my day to day walk around lens
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What do you think about this memory card?
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Rebel cameras have somewhat small buffer, so when shooting continuously, especially in RAW, you will get 3-4 shots at 3.5 fps, then it will stop and wait to write data to the card before it starts shooting again - I suggest go with either Sandisk Extereme III or equally fast cards from good names.

Also, the battery on rebels is rated only for 500 shots - no flash, no AI Servo Focusing - so you will get probably aroudn 200-300 out of the battery, so get an extra one from ebay - knock-offs are just fine, don't spend more on OEMs
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Rebel cameras have somewhat small buffer, so when shooting continuously, especially in RAW, you will get 3-4 shots at 3.5 fps, then it will stop and wait to write data to the card before it starts shooting again - I suggest go with either Sandisk Extereme III or equally fast cards from good names.

Also, the battery on rebels is rated only for 500 shots - no flash, no AI Servo Focusing - so you will get probably aroudn 200-300 out of the battery, so get an extra one from ebay - knock-offs are just fine, don't spend more on OEMs
Allright. One last question. Which one out of these three? http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_ss_p?...+Extereme+III+
Just found this one.
http://www.consumerdepot.com/product...referer=google

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Amazon still beats this site in price. The only difference, they have refurbished cameras which I don't want to take a chance with.
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Allright. One last question. Which one out of these three? http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_ss_p?...+Extereme+III+
Just found this one.
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30MB/s edition - eh, I don't think XSI can write that fast - according to this table http://www.robgalbraith.com/bins/cam...?cid=6007-9424 - it never exceeds 15 MB/s

I went with 4G cards and always carryed 3 - if I would loose one due to corruption or just loose it - at least half of images would still be there. 4G - was good enough for 200-220 RAW shots or 400 largest GPEGs
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30MB/s edition - eh, I don't think XSI can write that fast - according to this table http://www.robgalbraith.com/bins/cam...?cid=6007-9424 - it never exceeds 15 MB/s

I went with 4G cards and always carryed 3 - if I would loose one due to corruption or just loose it - at least half of images would still be there. 4G - was good enough for 200-220 RAW shots or 400 largest GPEGs
That was weird. I couldn't read your full post until I hit reply. I guess I'll go with the 4 gig.
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