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Ceramic knives?

I am looking at getting some kitchen knives. Anyone have any experience with the Kyocera ceramic blades? I am pretty well sold with what I have read about them, but wanted to know if anyone has any first hand experience.
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Unless you cutting through bone they are fantastic. Spliting a chicken for example. If you drop it you screwed too.

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I love my Wusthof blades. I have been thinking about the ceramic knives too. I have yet to have first hand feed back from an owner....who actually knows their way around the kitchen....my knives get used....every single day, last thing I want are "block queens" Let me know Brian if you pick them up.


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I've never tried them, but to be honest I never bothered to look. I have worked in several professional kitchens in my days...I've never bought a "set" per se...I just have picked out really nice individual knives over the years as I've needed them. Quite a few are Henckels and and Wusthof, like Rick said..they're good.

I could see maybe adding one of those to my collection, although I could live without those pastel-colored ones. I suppose those ceramics have good anti-bacterial properties??
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I suppose those ceramics have good anti-bacterial properties??
Not only that, they are to have far superior cutting edge to steel, in addition to not needing to be sharpened nearly as often as steel either. Its surface is also supposed to lend to less friction, for example when cutting cheese, meat or fish, what you are cutting is less likely to stick to the blade. Hmmmm ....
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Well then if it were me I'd go buy one all-purpose ceramic knife from a good place like Williams-Sonoma or Sur la Table...and try it out for a few days. Places like that will let you return it if you simply decide you don't like it.
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Well then if it were me I'd go buy one all-purpose ceramic knife from a good place like Williams-Sonoma or Sur la Table...and try it out for a few days. Places like that will let you return it if you simply decide you don't like it.
Really??? Cool...I want a pastel blue one and pink too

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Brian, did our phone conversation plant a little seed there to buy something new?
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I'm looking to finally get a new set. Right now the Wusthof 8 piece set has my attention, then to that I'd pick up a set of their steak knives as well. Damn pricey though. $400 for the 8 piece, trying to price it out to maybe get it piece by piece so I can get the exact knives I want and leave out the shears they include since I have a set and almost never use them.

Seems like Japanese knives are the latest trend to buy, but from everything I've seen they are a bit smaller and lighter and have softer steel. I might like the feel of a German knife I'm thinking when using for any extended amount of time.
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Personally I think Ceramics are overrated.

This is the PERFECT time to put one of those Bed Bath and Beyond 20% off coupons to good use. I've got a full set of Calphalon kitchen knives (comes with 4 steak knives) and they ROCK.

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I'm looking to finally get a new set. Right now the Wusthof 8 piece set has my attention, then to that I'd pick up a set of their steak knives as well. Damn pricey though. $400 for the 8 piece, trying to price it out to maybe get it piece by piece so I can get the exact knives I want and leave out the shears they include since I have a set and almost never use them.

Seems like Japanese knives are the latest trend to buy, but from everything I've seen they are a bit smaller and lighter and have softer steel. I might like the feel of a German knife I'm thinking when using for any extended amount of time.
I still like Henkels. A twin Four Star and you can't go wrong.

4 knives are really what you need for most kitchens. 8-10 inch chef's knife. Carving Knife, Pairing Knife, and a serrated bread knife.

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I have so many specialty knives sitting in a box with all of my old butcher stuff it's not even funny.

In a kitchen, I have the following:

CutCo Cleaver (heavy son of a bitch that will whack right through bone with ease)
CutCo Vegetable (near flat, with a slight curve) utility knife; blade is about 7-8" long

The cleaver was expensive but worth it for when I am making a ham bone soup or chopping a rutabaga. The veg knife mostly collects dust and I will rotate it out into storage.

I was looking for a replacement for an old China-Kitchen knife that has a 5" perfectly flat edge. I still prefer this as the all-around knife to use for damn near everything in the kitchen. It was $5 20 years ago and it's still my staple because it also doubles as a food-lifter/block scraper due to the flat edge.

My other old time favorite is a Voctorinox curved boning knife that is shaved down to a very thin amount of metal. When you want to slice and have nothing stick, this is it because there is not much surface there anymore

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Add to that just a regular serrated bread knife and set of steak knives and that rounds out my kitchen.

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IMHO I'd never buy a set of knives. Better to go pick the best one of each kind you need. If I bought a set I wouldn't use half of them... but honestly I do most everything with one knife.
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IMHO I'd never buy a set of knives. Better to go pick the best one of each kind you need. If I bought a set I wouldn't use half of them... but honestly I do most everything with one knife.
I have yet to buy a set....I use two knives.

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Best place to buy knives is Northwest Cutlery on Lake and Halsted. They have everything from the mundane to the exotic. They also sharpen knives, better than anyone.

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my favorite kitchen knife is a 10" victornix chefs knife. it was $25 and its sharper then most of the knifes that I know people who have spent 3 or 4 times the money on.

I would really like to pick up a chinese cleaver.

where can you pick up nice knife blocks. Like I don't want to buy a set, but I like storing my knifes in a block. any suggestions?

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my favorite kitchen knife is a 10" victornix chefs knife. it was $25 and its sharper then most of the knifes that I know people who have spent 3 or 4 times the money on.

I would really like to pick up a chinese cleaver.

where can you pick up nice knife blocks. Like I don't want to buy a set, but I like storing my knifes in a block. any suggestions?
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my favorite kitchen knife is a 10" victornix chefs knife. it was $25 and its sharper then most of the knifes that I know people who have spent 3 or 4 times the money on.
I've read a lot of reviews, and America's Test Kitchen/Cooks Illustrated really loves the Victorinox/Forschner Chef's knife - it's also rated well in other comparos. Weight isn't everything, especially if it's not balanced, and not comfortable. They also like their paring knife due to its flexibility and the handle being easy to keep a grip on even if wet.

It's an ugly knife, in comparison to those pretty Wustofs and Shuns, but for $30 it's worth a go.

Also, I concur that buying a full set is a waste. You can get better knives for less money if you only buy one or two that you really need. I primarily use one chef's knife for everything except cutting bread.

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I would really like to pick up a chinese cleaver.

where can you pick up nice knife blocks. Like I don't want to buy a set, but I like storing my knifes in a block. any suggestions?
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I've read a lot of reviews, and America's Test Kitchen/Cooks Illustrated really loves the Victorinox/Forschner Chef's knife -
These are excellent knives, I use them at home and at work. I have much more expensive knives but, the Victorinox/ Forschner have a great feel.

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