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Knife Sharpening

Alright gang, let's talk about knife sharpening. I'm primarily interested in keeping my kitchen knives as sharp as possible, since a sharpening steel really doesn't sharpen. I also know enough to know that an electric solution isn't for me. I want to LEARN how to do this the right way.

Can anyone point me in the right direction, to either online resources and/or recommend good sharpening kits?
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I have a diamond stone that I use for the Kitchen stuff..... .I'll try to find a linky.


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Go pick up those knife sharpening kits with the 7-8 differant stones and angle vise. There around 30-50 bucks. Works perfect.



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A trick for some quick honing is to use the bottom side of a coffee cup.

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Here....
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I've always used a mobile service, and I usually get it done around this time of year so my knives are nice and sharp for the holidays, which is when I'm most likely to stab a family member and I want the job done right.

But unless you are really familiar with the mobile service and what tools they are using, the diamond sharpeners are almost the better way to go. They won't detemper the blades because they don't use heat. I just happen to have a mobile service whose main office is a block from my work, so I just walk over there and get them done, and I can see what they are doing, so I'm happy with it. $10 a shot.
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Seriously I would recommend these knifes. Im posting the video's as a joke but they really do work that good. http://www.miracleblade.com/

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I'm interested too. So blarney you're just recommending a single 6" wetstone as getting the job done?

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Yes...... I may have gone 1 grade finer in the end which is Green I think.

The diamond stone is amazing.....6 or 8 strokes per side... then a
quick lick with the steel to finish it up....... done.


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i'm looking for the easiest, most cost effective, and reliable method of sharpening up my knives.

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i'm looking for the easiest, most cost effective, and reliable method of sharpening up my knives.
Miracle blades. 1 time buy and your set.

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Miracle blades. 1 time buy and your set.
that wont sharpent my knives, it will replace them with a new set. I'm not interested in serrated knives, I prefer straight edged blades.

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i'm looking for the easiest, most cost effective, and reliable method of sharpening up my knives.
The diamond sharpener is regarded as the best tool, and actually better than thermal sharpening that you get with professional services. The diamonds aren't expensive-- blarney's suggestion is spot on.
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Diamond is the tool.


The only decision is based on you.


If you can hold the blade at the right angle and sharpen it, the stone I highlighted is the one.


If you have trouble with angles...... a sharpening device that holds the angle
FOR YOU with a diamond stone is the answer.


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I just watched one of those videos you posted...those knives defy the laws of physics!
I think the only thing sharper is a katana.

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i'm looking for the easiest, most cost effective, and reliable method of sharpening up my knives.
Spyderco Sharpmaker

http://www.amazon.com/Spyderco-Sharp.../dp/B000Q9C4AE

I have it, as well as a Lansky pro kit. The pro-kit was 2x more and doesn't work nearly as well or easily.

With this sharpener, in just a few minutes I can put an edge on any of my kitchen knives that will take hair off a forearm like a Schick quattro. Overripe tomatoes are no match.

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Go pick up those knife sharpening kits with the 7-8 differant stones and angle vise. There around 30-50 bucks. Works perfect.
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most gun stores or outdoor stores will have one. One thing you have to keep in mind Andy is what your blade is going to be used for. Then from there you can select edge angle and the stones that you will want to use.

simple example a straight razor will dull instantly if it's used to cut cardboard. A thick edged work knife can cut thinwire without dulling.
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I bought one of these to sharpen a block plane blade when I took a bamboo fly rod class:
http://www.woodcraft.com/Product/2000242/73/Combination-Waterstone--8-x-2-x-1-2501000.aspx

Works great on the kitchen knives, take a little getting used to holding at a consistent angle though.

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Seriously I would recommend these knifes. Im posting the video's as a joke but they really do work that good. http://www.miracleblade.com/

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7lWL0BIHlA4
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DEDZ0RA7NSo
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fVW9hIqil18

That's funny. I happened to see Ron Popeil infomercial yesterday. Looks like the same knives and the same sthick. Popeil's deal was approx. 1.75 per knife.Or maybe even less........I think he was tossing in another complete set for free. I don't know how good or how sharp a .75 knife can be. Or how long it will last.
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Excellent, thanks for the suggestions everyone!

I hate serrated edges for kitchen use, so that's definitely a no.

I see that the consensus is to get a diamond stone. However, given how important angles of the edge seem to be, I think a kit with guides would suit me best. Especially since I can often be a perfectionist and would rather ensure it with a guide.

So we have the Spyderco kit... any other kits to suggest or stay away from?
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I buy the majority of my kitchen tools from the Chef's Catalog or from a local restaurant supply.

The two at Chef's that stand out are:
Manual-- http://www.chefscatalog.com/product/...pener-464.aspx

and Electric-- http://www.chefscatalog.com/product/...sharpener.aspx
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Oh, and Kohl's carries a nice selection of these, so if you get their coupons, you can get a really good deal.
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Excellent, thanks for the suggestions everyone!

I hate serrated edges for kitchen use, so that's definitely a no.

I see that the consensus is to get a diamond stone. However, given how important angles of the edge seem to be, I think a kit with guides would suit me best. Especially since I can often be a perfectionist and would rather ensure it with a guide.

So we have the Spyderco kit... any other kits to suggest or stay away from?
I've had a spyderco for about 20 years. It has 2 different sets of "stones", gray and white. I like it alot. And also has the capability to sharpen serrated knives. (thats why they invented it). If you don't have a serrated bread knife, then you don't really have a bread knife.
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That's the other sharpener I have. Great sharpener, but not nearly as easy as the spyderco to get good results.

"Diamond stones" are a generalized term and come in many varieties and coarseness levels, and the coarser diamond stones take off far too much metal to get the best edge. They're in the <800 grit range generally, and even the finer diamond stones are too abrasive to get a fine, scary sharp edge. They're great for re-profiling a really beat up edge, but that's about it. To get a good edge, a 750 grit diamond stone is simply way too abrasive. There are extra fine diamond stones out there, but they're retarded expensive. Like $80-90 for single stone expensive.

If you're intent on using a traditional whetstone, you'll need an additional waterstones or sapphire stone. These are not diamond stones and have grit levels in the 4000-6000 range. These are available for the Lansky system that Ken posted up. Great system, but harder to get a goo edge and more expensive than the spyderco. If you master it, it's the shiznit-o-riffic biznomb, but you're going to spend alot of time getting there, and alot more time in the process of sharpening.

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