Yesterday I took my bike out and it was lacking power bad. When I pulled in the clutch it died and would not restart. Until it cooled down then I had to jump it because I killed the battery trying to start it. Today it started fine and warmed up fine and power was good but when it reached about 170 degrees it started to run like shit and would die at idle unless I gave it the gas. As long as I have had it, it never liked starting when it was warmed up I would have to give it gas to get it to start. Dealer told me that could be because of a bad battery now they say it could be electrical. I have not had them look at the bike because I'm not rich lol. This sucks I have only put about 900 miles since i got it. I have only had it about 3 months. The last time I rode it I took it 160 miles and had no problems. Can someone give me advice please. (And no I did not mess with the exhaust)
HELP!!! 97 gixxer 600 wont run right.
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Yesterday I took my bike out and it was lacking power bad. When I pulled in the clutch it died and would not restart. Until it cooled down then I had to jump it because I killed the battery trying to start it. Today it started fine and warmed up fine and power was good but when it reached about 170 degrees it started to run like shit and would die at idle unless I gave it the gas. As long as I have had it, it never liked starting when it was warmed up I would have to give it gas to get it to start. Dealer told me that could be because of a bad battery now they say it could be electrical. I have not had them look at the bike because I'm not rich lol. This sucks I have only put about 900 miles since i got it. I have only had it about 3 months. The last time I rode it I took it 160 miles and had no problems. Can someone give me advice please. (And no I did not mess with the exhaust)
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I am slowly realizing most Suzuki dealers don't got a clue diagnoses wise and only a small handful k.ow what their doing. Just my 2 cents as to what your issue is.....I ain't got a clue good luck dude
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Sounds like you need a compression test on each cylinder and a leak down test. A bike running like shit when it gets hot typically means loss of compression. You may want to shop around for another motor. Regardless, it's going to cost you for service to do the tests and find out the truth. Do some reading on what entails a compression test and leak down.
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Hot start issue - probably need a new stator and rectifier. Check this thread:
http://www.gixxer.com/forums/showthread.php?t=282130&highlight=hot+start
I own the same bike and out of experience, my next guess would be a nice carb clean. I highly doubt that you'll need a new engine. These old carb'd bikes can be pretty tempermental when the carbs aren't clean and set correctly (float height, air/fuel screw, jet size, carb sync
http://www.gixxer.com/forums/showthread.php?t=282130&highlight=hot+start
I own the same bike and out of experience, my next guess would be a nice carb clean. I highly doubt that you'll need a new engine. These old carb'd bikes can be pretty tempermental when the carbs aren't clean and set correctly (float height, air/fuel screw, jet size, carb sync
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The hot start issue sounds exactly like it. Shit the dealer would have cost me hundreds I love this forum lol Now how do I go about finding this stator and replacing it? lol Sorry for my ignorance on the issue but I'm new to bikes and don't know anyone that rides or fixes bike other than those I met here.
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Sometimes you have to spend money to keep your shit working correctly. You're worried about hundreds?! That's funny.
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Hundreds ? You can by ten SV's for that !
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The thing is with some research you'll find that the stator and regulator have no impact on running.
charge the battery really good and unplug the stator take the bike for a ride you'll see it's not ignition.
Without patting any one on the back the lack of clearance at the valves will cause a hard starting issue while hot because the bike is loosing compression.Love ya Nick.
Any sign of back firing or popping in the air box??Would confirm this idea.
a short in the electrics might cause some voltage power to the starter to falter but I'd bet resistance some where.
check compression while hot and cold just for shits and giggles.
charge the battery really good and unplug the stator take the bike for a ride you'll see it's not ignition.
Without patting any one on the back the lack of clearance at the valves will cause a hard starting issue while hot because the bike is loosing compression.Love ya Nick.
Any sign of back firing or popping in the air box??Would confirm this idea.
a short in the electrics might cause some voltage power to the starter to falter but I'd bet resistance some where.
check compression while hot and cold just for shits and giggles.
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the stator is on the left side of the bike toward the bottom and looks like an engine cover. You might need to drain the oil a little before taking it off. You'll need a new gasket along with the new stator.
It looks like these:
http://shop.ebay.com/i.html?_from=R...l?_from=R40&_trksid=p5197.m570.l1313&_nkw=srad+stator&_sacat=See-All-Categories
The rectifier is under the tail plastic so you'll have to take that off to find it. Do more research on the gixxer.com site, it's a very common problem.
It looks like these:
http://shop.ebay.com/i.html?_nkw=sr...srad+rectifier&_sacat=0&_odkw=srad+stator&_osacat=0&_trksid=p3286.c0.m270.l1313
You're still going to have to spend a good amount of money just on parts. That's the problem with old bikes - they have old parts.
It looks like these:
http://shop.ebay.com/i.html?_from=R...l?_from=R40&_trksid=p5197.m570.l1313&_nkw=srad+stator&_sacat=See-All-Categories
The rectifier is under the tail plastic so you'll have to take that off to find it. Do more research on the gixxer.com site, it's a very common problem.
It looks like these:
http://shop.ebay.com/i.html?_nkw=sr...srad+rectifier&_sacat=0&_odkw=srad+stator&_osacat=0&_trksid=p3286.c0.m270.l1313
You're still going to have to spend a good amount of money just on parts. That's the problem with old bikes - they have old parts.
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I read that post from the GSXR site and I wonder if it was a short from the heat in the windings that caused an ignition issue.
Try just running on the battery once its hot see if it straightens out??
Seems strange because I've run a dozen bikes with the stator unpluged for testing purposes.
Try just running on the battery once its hot see if it straightens out??
Seems strange because I've run a dozen bikes with the stator unpluged for testing purposes.
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My 96 750 alway had a hot start difficulty. But then I put a K&N airfilter in and the thing would die all the time and almost never start hot. Check that there are no air leaks around the filter, or that the airbox hasn't come off the carbs. The center two boots sometimed dont get seated properly and will leak air. That will cause problems. To tighten the airbox boots to the carbs, use long phillips thru the holes in the frame.
NOTE!!! These checks will cost you a 4mm, 6mm allenwrenches and a long philips screwdriver. If by chance any of this works, you GF owes me a BJ.
NOTE!!! These checks will cost you a 4mm, 6mm allenwrenches and a long philips screwdriver. If by chance any of this works, you GF owes me a BJ.
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To run just the battery do I just unplug the stator?
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Only way to learn is by doing. I have replaced intake manifolds, ball joints, starters, ac compressors, water pumps, breaks, calipers etc on cars. I know I can fix a bike I just need some direction and advice. I wish I could spend money to have it fixed but it isn't possible at the moment due to lack of work.
Thanks to everyone for your advice. Time to start messing with it and eliminating possibilities. Anyone want to buy a bike? lol
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and the main way to break something that isnt broken is to work on it
i have no idea what skills you have but if you dont know where something is how would you know its broke or needs replacing?
have you put a voltmeter on it yet? what 3 readings did you get for running voltage? resistance?
overall, the 90s was a sorry era for GSXR's and the 600 was the red headed stepchild of gixxers untill 2001 when suzuki finally made it as good as the others, so you have an uphill battle to make yours a decent runner
i worked at a suzuki dealer from 01 till 05 and hardly saw any of those older 600s ( but hundreds of craptanas of similar vintage), and of the ones i did none of them seemed to run worth a crap, i think sv650s are faster than carbed 600s,, i dont think suzuki made alot of those 600s and many that survived have probably been upgraded to 750cc
i would find someone who still likes that 90's purple/black color scheme and sell it to get an 01-03 gsxr 600, those can be had for cheap if you look, then again i see fools selling 90's bikes for $3500, dont fall for it
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