SO....what ya guys think of the new site rules?

BusaDave said:

When has the community NOT expressed their opinions?

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There is a huge difference between expressing your opinion PRIOR to action being taken (like our political elections). And voicing your opinion AFTER action has been taken when feelings are already hurt and animosity has built up.

If allowed to express opinions PRIOR to action, the population is at least given that false sence of thier vote "counting".:rolleyes

here hopefully i can end this new question.

thats why we have moderators..along with the admins.

WE KNOW (mods) just about every problem with the forums or members when something goes wrong.
theres no need to open it up to EVERYONE on the board with a vote to see if our choice is correct or not. based on that, there is no need to let everyone know problems..the more problems you bring in..the more problems EVERYONE has to deal with. isnt fair to no one to deal with so much problems.when there is no need too.

other then that, thats the way me and tony are running it.

not everyone knows everything that goes on..and there is no need too.

hope i dont have to keep explaining this, if you dont understand by now.

Odysseys said:

here hopefully i can end this new question.

thats why we have moderators..along with the admins.

WE KNOW (mods) just about every problem with the forums or members when something goes wrong.
theres no need to open it up to EVERYONE on the board with a vote to see if our choice is correct or not. based on that, there is no need to let everyone know problems..the more problems you bring in..the more problems EVERYONE has to deal with. isnt fair to no one to deal with so much problems.when there is no need too.

other then that, thats the way me and tony are running it.

not everyone knows everything that goes on..and there is no need too.

hope i dont have to keep explaining this, if you dont understand by now.

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Your bringing this discussion off topic.

Cherry wasn't talking about opening up EVERY problem to the group or knowing EVERY problem, if that was the case all he'd need to do is spread around a hack into the mod forum. He was talking about giving the population the chance to voice thier opinions publicly prior to a friend getting kicked off. The impact of those opinions may be mute... the final word will always rest with Admin. But it would allow Mods/Admins to gauge potential backlash and allow members to feel at least they got in thier 2cents on such an important matter (losing a friend) or urge that friend (the ban-ee) to attempt to ammend the situation before it goes any further. If members opinions aren't wanted or needed why is this thread titled "SO....what ya guys think of the new site rules?????" ?
And how often have people needed to be banned? I can't imagine the number is that high or that it would place too much of a burden on most folks.

Odysseys said:

when ever there is a problem of such..OPEN it for the WHOLE BOARD to see and talk about and to FURTHER get into the problem of what ever it is. then gets everyones input or suggestion of course of action that should be taken by EVERYONES VOTE..(thats what i sounds like you and cherry are talking about to me). but you are gonna have the same problem...there will be yes votes and no votes..and who ever wins of majority..GUESS what the other voters that lost will still not like it..still complain and still there is no issue resolved for everyone..there for, SORRY as far as i am concered i am not going to do that. cause STILL not everyone is happy with what ever choice was made.

are you implying cherry or anyone is IS SO NOSY that they would like to hack the mod forum?...if so...(i dont think that about cherry for 1) and 2 who ever has this thought...you got issues that i think you need to resolve..cause thats plain stupid:laughing

sounds like your pissed or cherry about michael getting banned to me...in which case...he was warned and didnt correct his issues.

yes what do you think of the rules?..NOT what do you think you should change them instead too.
Although i am open to hearing differant ideas i am NOT blowing off your thoughts or opinions or anyone elses.

not many at all..i think 2 people from day 1 of CLSB, which is hardly close to none...and IT SUCKS when we have to..but no matter what that banned member has a choice to come back with and correct his reason why he got banned. for what ever reasons they were.

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I'll answer these point by point.

paragraph #1: You didn't comprehend the point of my previous statement. Please re-read it.

paragraph #2: I'm not implying anything. I was pointing out the difference between what you were talking about (opening up EVERY issue to group discussion(equal to wholesale access to mod forum) vs what Cherry brought up(group discussion prior to banning someone). Big Difference, again please re-read my previous statements.

paragraph #3: I'm not pissed about anything, and I can't speak for Cherry. I thought we were discussing current site rules and proposals for additions/modifications to those rules? Why are you bringing up Michael?, that's in the past as far as I'm concerned.

paragraph #4: I though we were discussing opinions of current rules & suggestions for, or modifications to the present rules? If that wasn't the intent of this thread being started what was??

paragraph #5 So having discussions on the 2 incidents that have resulted in banning would in your opinion have been placing too much of a burden on the membership?

paragraph #4: I though we were discussing opinions of current rules & suggestions for, or modifications to the present rules? If that wasn't the intent of this thread being started what was??

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just to see if everyone can agree...YEP those are pretty easy and fair rules.

paragraph #5 So having discussions on the 2 incidents that have resulted in banning would in your opinion have been placing too much of a burden on the membership?

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its more like this:


it sucks i have came to this point in thinking this way..but certain peoples views cant just seem to FLOW with things we are trying to get across BEFORE all these DEBATES , VIEWS, COMMENTS, or let alone trying to REDO what PERSPECTIVES I or WE HAVE on the site.

so now SORRY for everyone..I AM GOING TO TELL IT LIKE IT IS.
cause i am FUCKEN PISSED!

if you dont like the way things are leave! that goes to anyone that has a problem with anything on here. we all have FREE choice of what to do.
i consider this place almost like my home...if someone comes into it and does something i dont like,approve of or insults me..FUCK THEM...not only are they kicked out of my house but they are on my shit list..and since this web site in NOT as close as what my home value means to me...it isnt as closly held close to as....but the mentality of if someone does something in my house (and the web site is considered as such in a way i hold this to be true)
does something to PISS on it...well OFF they go too.

i am NOT going to let ANYONE DICTATE....what SHIT i have to deal with in my home.NOR is it a freaking disccusion.
WOULD ANYONE ELSE DO SUCH A THING?
i think not..and if you do...your stupid
no one can tell me if some asshole in your house and pissed you off with something like i said..your going to ask everyone else in the party..HEY lets vote and see if this guy who just did something fucked up to me..that i want your vote to see IF i should just shut my mouth and let people insult me or DISREPSECT my house rules.

NO so the hell with that..and thats why as of now..and in the future..THERE WILL BE NO SUCH action IF AND WHEN THE TIME COMES TO BANN SOMEONE.


so sorry if i seem out of line to anyone or anyone doesnt like my morals..thats me and thats the way i handle my shit in my 1st home and in here my 2nd home..that i help make and i OPEN IT UP TO EVERYONE TO HAVE FUN ON ...and if and when people SHIT on me FUCK THEM!!!!!! they are out...FUCK I AM EVEN NICE ENOUGH TO LET THEM BACK IN..all they have to do is make a fucken appology...how fucken hard it that?

so if anyone still has a problem...you know where to go...i am fucken doen with this shit!