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Which is odd considering the large amount of new members here riding a shiny, new 600RR with less than a year of experience under their belt.
That's how gangsta's roll.
 
made me get the ninja 250 which i wish had a lil more unf to it and i really wanna move up to a 600 but i still need to stay put and ride it out and keep practicing/learning on it.
 
I own a kawi ex500 ninja and I have been riding dirt bikes since I was younger. I know basic riding knowledge but after smartdrug took me out to learn how to lean into turns..it's a whole new world. I'm glad I started my sport bike life out on a 500 instead of a 600. As I stated before, great article! I'm already looking for a new 600cc bike :)
 
This is a great article. My son has been asking for a motorcycle. I pointed out the Kawasaki Ninja 250R and the Honda Nighthawk. He seems to be leaning toward the Kaw but he doesn’t like how small it is. I told him that he needs to start out small and build his skills and confidence. I think he listens sometimes but he always seems to point out the YZF-R6’s, CBR 600RR’s and the GSX-R600’s or some other bike that is way too big. I told him that I learned on a 1981 KZ 440LTD. I am tall (6’ 5”) and it was a small bike and I made it look like a moped, but I drove that thing everywhere. I went to the MSF classes to learn the basics correctly and I always wore the right gear. When the time finally comes, he will also go to the classes or no bike. I am going to print this article so he can read it and then discuss what he has learned. And also go over what he missed. I really try to encourage him to ride responsibly because it is fun but it can be over in a blink of an eye if you aren’t careful.
 
Happiness isn't around the corner, it IS the corner!

For two whole months I was trying to buy used, then I got sick of people trying to high ball me for stuff what wasn't worth jack. All the good deals were taken within few hours, all the high deals were not sold and I had watch out for out for stolen or fake ads. Luckily I work at a police station and I can run the VIN so if he gives me his name and address I know it’s legit but it's still annoying to ask my co worker to run it every time I came across a good deal. So at this point I was sick of looking for a used bike.
Second, why waste 1-2 grand on a used bike and buy another bike when I’m ready? When I’m not going to even go fast? I don't plan to race and I don't plan to do any crazy stunts and I’m trying to be a police officer and I don’t plan on speeding anytime soon. I got the idea of riding the bike because I took the safety course and I passed. So why should I waste that money when it can go to my dream bike? So what if I drop it? I’m sure that 1-2 grand I wasted on a used bike will easily cover my bike to fix the fender.
Sorry if I ever got offensive, it’s just everyone I know personally said to me get a used bike but when I look for a used bike it’s a rip off or it’s gone. I really appreciate for all your inputs but I was just looking for a known dealer for being friendly but it’s too late now, I already bought it for 8,500 OTD w/ $100 gift card.
You may not plan to speed, but beware when that bike starts whispering in your ear "Just a little faster, twist it a little more!" It's a very seductive voice and it WILL get you in trouble if you aren't careful. Best of luck and hope to see you out before the weather gets too cold! :thumbsup :lean:
 
Got To First Page And Read On.....time Well Spent

go to first page and read on time well spent:robewizar

Well needed rebirth since we have alot of newbies coming on board and alot of what should I buy questions already, bit of a read but well worth it.

Check this out please if you are new to riding and /or plan on looking for a New to you starter bike.. Be smart do your homework and ask questions, there are way to many people here willing to help each other out.. Dont make a dumb move or get burnt making your first purchase.....

Food for thought!!! Thanks and credit for those that posted this first..
 
After the updated styling to the Ninja 250R to make it look like a actual sportbike. No one should be embarrassed or say its too ugly to learn on.
 
I'm closing in on 24k miles in the 250 world. 12k on the Ninja 250 and now over 12k on the KLX250sf.

It is fun to pass newbs on 600's in the corners. "Haha! You just got passed by a girl on a 28HP motard!"

Start small and you can't hide behind horsepower.

I'm so glad I started small. My first "bike" was a 50cc scooter. I jumped up from that to the Ninja 250 and WOW. That's like going from a Ninja 250 to a Busa, let me tell ya. I took the MSF course, and spent countless hours in the saddle. But after 9 months (12k miles), I still totaled the thing. :( I have had a bum shoulder ever since. Full gear aside, the bike still ripped my throttle arm out of socket as I went down (trying to prevent a highside during MASSIVE chatter, I gunned it and massively lowsided. Who knew a lowside could be so violent?).

The KLX is actually a great next step in learning how to ride. Even though it's a step down in power, it's a BIG step up in torque (especially since I've modded it), and is much more sensitive to inputs. However, it's still VERY forgiving, because of its geometry. This is the perfect recipe for experimenting with what works and what doesn't.

Riding a small bike teaches you to enjoy riding not for the raw power in a straight line, but for the control and finesse in tight maneuvering (at least in my opinion). And, boy, I still have a looong way to go.

I would love to move up to something like the ER6n for my "next" bike, but that's years down the road (for financial reasons). I really only want more power for comfort on longer trips (500+ miles). This little supermoto is plenty fast enough for everything else.

Then again, I'm only 100lbs (about 115 or so with full gear), so a 250 is going to pull much better for me than a 150+ guy.
 
2 cents

So I got a 600cc bike as my first bike and, I was all about getting a 250cc bike. I paid a guy 100 bucks to teach me how to ride his honda rebel and the last conversation I had with the guys was how this was his first bike and how its not alot of fun to ride, he told me not to buy a 250. The second person I talked to told me his wife learned on a 440ltz or something like that, He told me not to get a 250 because he was scared for his wife life with not being able to get out of the way fast enough. I love my $1500 1993 ninja zx600e, Yes the bike is fast yes the bike is twice as heavy as the bike I learned on in the msf class. Yes, the turning on the bike takes more practice and the bike does not let you screw up as much as the 200 yamaha I practiced on did. I was just looking up the specs on a new ninja zx6r and well the bike is 100 pounds lighter then mine and well I think 20hp more, So maybe a new 600cc bike is alot faster then mine but, why would you buy something that your going to learn on and crash and break shit on. I would suggest knowing what you getting your self into when you buy a 600cc + bike as your first bike, Just know More power, more weight, = more dangerous. I read an article some where that says buy what you want to ride, but know this you must respect what you buy and don't think for one second the bike will not bite you if you mess up.
 
I dont think buying a 600 as your first bike is horrible. They have so little torque (at least the I4 ones) that they're almost gutless in my view. Actually the Suzuki SV650 makes more hp and lb ft up to about 5-6k rpm than a CBR600RR so one wonders...

Esp considering most riders will ride around on the street for a few years and give it up, I think a 600cc bike is fine. If a young rider came to me and said he wanted to be a seriously good rider on track though, I'd probably direct him or her to a Ninja 250, then to the California Superbike school because in that example I thik its useful to have a low-powered bike to become comfortable when the bike is leant over in the corners vs on the street where it doesnt really matter too much.
 
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