I hope someone here has a clue what he's talking about 'cause I don't!:hmmm
I hadn't been following this thread because I wasn't on the ride.
A couple of comments:
I think passing on a double yellow and forcing people to panic is inexcuseable. I have been on a couple of rides where this has happened (NOT CLSB rides) and immediately told the group to go on without me.
I am not going to be the CLSB or SBN nagging nanny! I have tried to make my point a couple of times and I have resolved to break away from the group when I get the feeling that something is wrong, and I always will let someone know first. So far I've broken out of three rides that later had crashes. So much for "If you aren't pushing yourself you aren't learning!"
You're all a great bunch of folks and regardless of what happens to CLSB or SBN or group rides, it's been great meeting most of you. The sense of humor (and grip on satire) is high amoungst this group and the joking largely harmless and good-natured.
The "bickering" is a normal group dynamic in the life cycle of a group. This group has existed long enough that these issues coming up is a normal part of the group process. Those of you who hang in there and who are willing to be part of the process, to negotiate acceptable resolutions to group concerns will gain from the process and will never forget the people you have met as a result of this.
There are legitimate concerns being raised. Do not let it cloud your thinking that they are being raised by particular individuals. If you are one raising concerns that are not satisfactorily resolved, there is nothing morally inferior to your searching out a group that will address your concerns.