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I have to admit, I'm super stoked to catch it in the theater. I had to email the Music Box Theater to find out how long they'd be showing it. I dont really feel like waiting in a line of nerds on opening night, but will if I have to.
 

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I still dig the original version with the narration. I didn't care for the directors cut, except for the extra scenes.

There was a theater that used to play it all the time...I don't think it was Music Box...just off North Ave and Clark I think...damn, it's been about 10-12 years since I've seen it at the theater.

Lets just buy it on Blue-Ray and head over to Stas' house! :)
 

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If you have read the cyberpunk genre establishing novel "Neuromancer" by William Gibson, you will find this interesting. If you have not read it, you should.


Did Blade Runner influence William Gibson when he wrote his cyberpunk classic, "Neuromancer"? Did Blade Runner influence cyberpunk in general?

http://www.brmovie.com/FAQs/BR_FAQ_BR_Influence.htm


It seems that both William Gibson and Ridley Scott were, at the time, both very much influenced by much of the visual styles and artwork featured in the magazine "Heavy Metal", notably the work by French artist Jean Giraud, AKA "Moebius". One story in particular, called "The Long Tomorrow", written by Dan O'Bannon and drawn by Moebius, was a major influence on the visual design of BR. Ironically, this story was in fact a parody of early American Film Noir.

Gibson, in an interview by Lance Loud in an article on the 10th anniversary of "Blade Runner" for the magazine "Details" (October 1992 issue), had the following to say:

"About ten minutes into Blade Runner, I reeled out of the theater in complete despair over its visual brilliance and its similarity to the "look" of Neuromancer, my [then] largely unwritten first novel. Not only had I been beaten to the semiotic punch, but this damned movie looked better than the images in my head! With time, as I got over that, I started to take a certain delight in the way the film began to affect the way the world looked. Club fashions, at first, then rock videos, finally even architecture. Amazing! A science fiction movie affecting reality!"

"Years later, I was having lunch with Ridley, and when the conversation turned to inspiration, we were both very clear about our debt to the Metal Hurlant [the original Heavy Metal magazine] school of the '70s--Moebius and the others. But it was also obvious that Scott understood the importance of information density to perceptual overload. When Blade Runner works best, it induces a lyrical sort of information sickness, that quintessentially postmodern cocktail of ecstasy and dread. It was what cyberpunk was supposed to be all about."

William Gibson
Also, here is an excerpt from an introduction Gibson wrote for the graphic novel adaptation of his own "Neuromancer" book:

"So it's entirely fair to say, and I've said it before, that the way Neuromancer-the-novel "looks" was influenced in large part by some of the artwork I saw in 'Heavy Metal'. I assume that this must also be true of John Carpenter's 'Escape from New York', Ridley Scott's 'Blade Runner'", and all other artefacts of the style sometimes dubbed 'cyberpunk'. Those French guys, they got their end in early."
 

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Man when did that movie come out? I remember it a little.. Old skool yo! I think I was like 3 when the movie was in theaters. I'd go check it out at the Music box.
 

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I've never seen it, but I would love to see it in a theater. Set something up and I'll go.
 

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I've never seen it, but I would love to see it in a theater. Set something up and I'll go.
Good, dont see it till you can see the new "final cut". The final version will be devoid of the lame voice over and happy ending crapola. You'll get to see it fresh, and just as intended. I'm jealous.



Jrock, I've read Neuromancer and a couple other Gibson novels.
 

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Shoot, and I though you were pinging me... :flip

Chris, if you want to save a few bucks I've got the director cut DVD lying around you can mooch till you pick up hd. Me having a copy was a gimme, wasn't it. :)

Big screen sound good. Post up some dates. I need time away from my girls.
 

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Let me know when your going Vcook
 

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I gotta admit, I liked A Scanner Darkly too, same underlying theme as Blade Runner.

Two of my favorite lines from film:
"Quite an experience to live in fear, isn't it? That's what it is to be a slave. I've seen things you people wouldn't believe. Attack ships on fire off the shoulder of Orion. I've watched C beams glitter in the dark near the Tannhauser gate. All those moments will be lost in time like tears in rain. Time to die."

"It's a shame she won't live, but then again who does."
 

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Shoot, and I though you were pinging me... :flip

Chris, if you want to save a few bucks I've got the director cut DVD lying around you can mooch till you pick up hd. Me having a copy was a gimme, wasn't it. :)

Big screen sound good. Post up some dates. I need time away from my girls.
I have that DVD too, it's a crappy non-anamorphic transfer with lousy dolby 2.0 audio. The new "final cut" replaces a couple missing scenes, and removes the same stuff the orginal Directors Cut did while at the same time doing justice to the audio and video. I'm stoked. :1pimp
 

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Cool. Once I pick up an HD player for the 360 I'll jump on that.
 

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Jrock, I've read Neuromancer and a couple other Gibson novels.
Count Zero and Mona Lisa Overdrive complete the Sprawl Triology.

Have you read Burning Chrome? Its is several short stories and Burning Chrome is one of them. Just do a search on the this page for Burning Chrome and it will take you right to the story.

http://project.cyberpunk.ru/lib/burning_chrome/
 

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I read mona lisa overdrive. Honestly it's been a while, but I wasn't as impressed with the novels as I hoped to be. Gibson is well regarded but it just didnt trip my trigger, maybe I should give it another go.
 

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I wasn't blown away by Mona Lisa Overdrive either. I liked Count Zero better.

I did enjoy most of the stories in Burning Chrome.

Totally different genre (still post-modern though), but after putting down Gibson, I really got into Don Delillo, particulary White Noise, Libra and Mao II.
 

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Good, dont see it till you can see the new "final cut". The final version will be devoid of the lame voice over and happy ending crapola. You'll get to see it fresh, and just as intended. I'm jealous.
Its been a movie I've always wanted to see. My interest was renewed when, on my honeymoon, Mo and I went to the Sci-Fi history museum in Seattle. They had some of the props used in the movie.

I'll take a vacation day if I need to for this.
 
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