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There are more questions than answers but the gist of it is if you own a bike without a license plate in Illinois, it needs to have this ORV sticker. It is illegal to ride an unregistered bike, even on private property. Any law enforcement agency can enforce this law, including checking orv's in transport for compliance. So, the cops can finally pull you over just for having a dirtbike in your truck. They could pull you over and check your roadrace bike. DNR has the power to enter private property to check for compliance. The DNR will now have the authority to mosey on into the riding parks and tracks to write tickets, maybe even field a few complaints about noise, or note erosion problems while they're there. They are not people we want around.

My understanding is that the implementation hasn't been written yet. This law was passed to fund the IDNR and to my understanding was supported by ABATE. The fucking money from the stickers, is going to fund the enforcement.

ABATE shit the bed by supporting this bill. Nobody even knew about it until it had already passed. Out of one side of their mouths the "We are against big government and their laws" i.e. there stance on helmet laws, and the other support this piece of shit legislation granting sweeping interference and revenue generation without saying a word.

Again, the money from this program is going fund its enforcement. In most states, registration funds go to trail system funding. Not here. We're gonna use the money strictly from ORV's to fund ticket writing. Fucking great.

I suggest you politely call and write some people, I'll copy and paste some of info on who to contact.

Oh, btw. If you don't have a title for your off road bike, prepare to be fucked in the ass. If the sticker is registered to the VIN on the orv, you better have paperwork in order, and taxes paid in full, or shit is gonna get real.




Copy/Paste Info From AMA D17 site:

Subject is:


Sb1566: Is a very unpopular and unfair bill for all off-road enthusiasts.

As always be very polite and respectful with your phone calls

There is a very unpopular bill for off-road users that was passed in the veto session and it was the 2nd House Amendment of SB1566. The link below will give you that info.

http://www.ilga.gov/legislation/ful...=SB&LegID=57454&DocNum=1566&GAID=11&Session=0

We have a sit down meeting with the IDNR (Illinois Dept. Natural Resources) Director, Marc Miller.

He wanted this meeting in January before the rules are written for it and we would like to have it before the State Seminar so that we can inform you of the results.

At this meeting for ABATE will be "Hunter" John Harris, Stacey Rigsby, who are both very ardent members do the off-road community and Jay Hall who is into racing and off-road riding and will be there to give a businessman's point of view, Todd Vandermyde,and myself (if 5 are allowed in).

Those that are offended and opposed to this bill are asked to call Jay Curtis, Chief of Staff for Marc Miller IDNR Director and ask him to support the changes and fixes that Hunter, Stacey, and Jay have for this bill

Below are the ph #s for the office and staff as you asked for but I highly recommend the # that you use would be for for Chief of Staff and Director of Legislative Affairs, Jay Curtis (217) 785-0075.

You don't want the Director being upset with the amount of ph.calls he would be getting as he does make the decisions on the RULES and the Chief of Staff is more in tune with legislation.

John Rogner

Assistant Director
217-785-0075

Jay Curtis

Chief of Staff & Director of Legislative Affairs
217-785-0075

Travis Loyd

Deputy Director
217-782-2191

Beth Penesis

Deputy Director
217-785-0075

Todd Main

Acting Deputy Director
312-814-2751


Bob Myers

BOB MYERS

LEGISLATIVE COORDINATOR

ABATE OF ILLINOIS

# 618-885-5769

Cell# 618-917-4919

[email protected]
 

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ABATE shit the bed by supporting this bill. Nobody even knew about it until it had already passed. Out of one side of their mouths the "We are against big government and their laws" i.e. there stance on helmet laws, and the other support this piece of shit legislation granting sweeping interference and revenue generation without saying a word.


peachy.
 

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I read about this when Wardy posted it on KTM talk. I'm beyond pissed if I have to buy a sticker to ride on private property. Especially since Illinois will not use the money to do anything ORV related.

I have no problem buying a michigan ORV sticker when i go up there. They actually use the money to create and maintain trails on state lands. Illinois will do nothing but pilfer the money and use it for who knows what.

Its bullshit
 

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So, will my Sumo on the back of my SUV as I head to Wisc to ride be affected? - Technicaly we do not ride "off road" as it is a Tarmac Track
 

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just wait i bet chicago tries to find away to dip into this and require a city sticker or something
 

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Don't jump to conclusions or act on rumors here folks. As stated, implementation has not yet been formulated, so how can it be concluded that the revenue generated will be spent on enforcement or that enforcement will lead to track racing bikes being cited? I spoke with an AMA District 17 director about this several times and the sad fact is that even though he opposed this he said himself that fighting this bill was futile.
It really came down to picking your battles! When I spoke to A.B.A.T.E personel, I was told that they were supporting the bill to get money into the IDNR to provide more riding opportunities that would NOT be coming from the IDNR without them raising cash. Their strategy also included the idea that if they went along they might get a seat at the table when it came to deciding how the cash will be spent. Political horse trading is in A.B.A.T.E's wheel house!
This has to be monitored closely and drawing a line in the sand over it now could hamper efforts at negotiations that would end up being to our advantage.
I will gather as much info as I can and I will keep you posted. Stay tuned.
EDIT: The copy/paste info from the District 17 site came from the A.B.A.T.E Legislative coordinator. Kind of confirms how they were looking to get a seat at the table to have a say in implementation. Jay, John and Stacey are all good men and if they get Todd in there too we will have a first rate team going to bat for us.
 

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yep... pick your battles...

godforbid you gotta wear a helmet and not look tough on your harleys, but hey an extra 15-20 tax on my bike that will never see use on public land is peachy
 

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yep... pick your battles...

godforbid you gotta wear a helmet and not look tough on your harleys, but hey an extra 15-20 tax on my bike that will never see use on public land is peachy
Obviously, you don't see the bigger picture. Would it be better to have gone all out to oppose the bill knowing you had no chance of defeating it and then NOT have a snowballs chance in hell of getting the opportunity to have input with the IDNR director on HOW it gets implemented? The very fact that Jay Hall, Stacy Rigsby, John Harris and possibly Todd Vandermyde will have that input is very much to the advantage of the off road community. That's what chosing your battles WISELY means!

I've read the law as amended. I'm no legal scholar but, if you think this applies to road bikes... I would say it does not AND it also seems to exempt racing vehicles that are used on closed course race tracks. I'm pretty sure that should mean MX bikes and Hare Scrambles machines as well as flat trackers and road racers.

I've got to ask...If you have an off road motorcycle why wouldn't it ever see use on public land? Would you REALLY pass up a chance to ride on public land over $15?
 

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I've got to ask...If you have an off road motorcycle why wouldn't it ever see use on public land? Would you REALLY pass up a chance to ride on public land over $15?
Why not ride on public land for free like people have been doing for decades? That's right, because Illinois wastes taxpayers money so they need to find a way to get more.
 

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Why not ride on public land for free like people have been doing for decades? ...
They weren't doing it legally...The only public land that has been open to off road recreation in Illinois since the early 90's has been the IDNR parks like Rocky Glen in Rockford and Little Egypt in Marion as examples (there are 3 or 4 other parks). Since their inception there has been a battery of fees that have gone into the IDNR fund. It started with the legislation that created the IDNR parks with a transition from selling OHV cycles and ATV's with a title instead of a Certificate of origin. The title fee money went into a dedicated fund that was the seed money added with federal trail funds that started the grant program to obtain land and open IDNR OHV parks for cycles and ATV's. In addition to that money a daily fee is charged for the operators expenses and all vehicles were required to buy a sticker to use the parks at $11 per year. Basically, all this is doing is raising the sticker fee $3 and expanding the sticker requirement. One way to look at it that makes it a little easier to take is it doesn't even come close to what it cost boat enthusiasts!
You are correct that this bill had a componant about raising more money for the state, the idea was for the major portion of it to fund the IDNR AND expand the OHV trail system. Read the bill as amended and passed.
Yes, I agree...It was not well thought out and it leaves alot of room for abuse and for the state to misuse funds but the IDNR is broke and the state was going to pass this come hell or high water. I did not favor this and many others didn't for various reasons but, the opportunity to have funds to continue and possibly expand the IDNR trail parks and grant system combined with the opportunity to have input on the administering and implementation of the law gives a bit of a silver lining to an otherwise dark cloud.
I'm not defending the state here or trying to justify the new law. All I'm doing in this post is giving some background and perspective of the facts as they are.
The bag of fruit we got stuck with was all lemons...the only option is to make lemonade!
 

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Reading the bill and the definition of "off-highway motorcycle" in the Ill Vehicle code, it's very questionable if motorcycles used for track days or racing on paved tracks will be included in the requirement for a sticker.

It will be up to the folks that write the implementation to determine. Hopefully ABATE and the AMA will remember us track junkies when they work on this.

And in any case, $15 won't kill me.
 

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So OTB you are telling me ABATE approved this so everyone in the state could pay $15 to ride 3 locations in the whole state? Am I hearing this correctly?

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